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Wolph I read your posts & agree with a lot of what you said.

Malice if you can be bothered you need to read back through this thread & see that I have moved on long ago from what you keep accusing me of. Now I am just giving my assessment of the team's progress: bad.

I agree that some games are easy wins & others impossible but I can't see any clever moves. Please point some out that I have missed.

YC I'm obviously not asking for Kaname Kouzuki to go back on the team now after so many skill drops at age 35 but back when I was advocating him his OD & PA were 2 of the things that I thought made him a potential NT player, both are still average. I agree I like all rounded players. Sonada was never my fault, he was capped when I got him, guys I have trained are Takayoshi Kawagichi, Daisaku Kawaida, Noritada Konoe & Shin Shidehara. All 4 are PGs really designed to be good in LI & all 4 have at least 1 strong or better inside skills. They aren't SFs but I do try to avoid those atrocious secondaries.

Training out of position is hard, I have basically given up this season to train my young guys, I hope it will be worth it in the long run. Next season will be worse if I do some OD & PA for Ichiro Nishimura & Eita Wakatsuki, maybe I should do it this season seeing as this 1 is already lost.

For next season there are a lot of players that would make a good NT coach:

Wolph: experience & knowledge & passion, who cares if he annoys the other coaches.
Malice: experience & knowledge & passion, has run a NT before & has strong opinions.
Mizik: fantastic manager with a ton of experience.
Izaman: fantastic manager with a ton of experience.
641 (did he change his name. manager of Kawaguchi Werewolves) showing he has lots of skill leading the whole JBBL.

I would even be willing to give a local from a lower division who has shown he knows how to train a go like JURIANA or 13542 (I am legend).

What is it with everyone becoming a number? Shanga is now 17437?

If I was a number I would be 1 1

1 1 was a race horse
2 2 was 1 2
1 1 1 1 race
2 2 1 1 2.

641 (did he change his name. manager of Kawaguchi Werewolves) showing he has lots of skill leading the whole JBBL.

Nope, Ken is still Ken...

You agree Motoori is no SF. I have a hard time believing that after training Asano for two seasons myself and you continue his training as a PF! that being~ behind on TSP when he was with me, a year older....that somehow magically Asano has jumped ahead as an SF....with a year older training speed....and in a PF regimen....

You are correct....Asano is a PF but in the JBBL I can get away with playing him at SF. My goal is still either 12 OD 18 ID or 13 OD or 17 ID...and that would make him a PF. .Now if the Blank gives him minutes at SF, that is not up to me.

Much more constructive discussion going on!

I think BB King's long overdue for a bit of a comment on this...

Perhaps Motoori should have played more than 2 minutes as a backup C, but it would require a manual set lineup.

The last game it actually did use Asano at PF mostly and I think he played rather well there from what I saw in the game....considering his opponent as well and the enth difference...darn good performance.

Well, I have fixed Motoori's SB so I hope he gets some time at C. About the Blank...Now I wonder if it is broken because after Asano popped in OD two weeks ago and it finally plays him at PF. I was giving him OD because of the fact he was playing SF for the NT. And here is some good advice that BB KIng gave me..He said that a good NT PF for a big country has either 12/18 for 13/17 OD/ID. So that is what I am going for. Will I get there...I hope.

Ok... good win tonight!

Let them get back in the game, but had England (a quality opponent) on the ropes all evening.