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From: brian

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Date: 6/2/2008 6:39:47 PM
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It is now common knowledge that OD (with pressure) trains only very slowly especially if compared to drive (in one on one) or with rebounds.


I've actually been asking around to get info on OD training. Recently a top 20yo guard of mine trained:

2 weeks PG/SG pressure and 1 week PG pressure (8 trainer) and hasn't popped. Concerned he's hit his all-star potential soft cap, based partially on the info from this thread.

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Date: 6/3/2008 4:52:57 AM
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ouch - thats not good to read... i was banking on giving a few of my boys 1-2 more levels....sounds like it may not be possible or be painfully slow...

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Date: 6/3/2008 5:34:57 AM
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ID training
trainer 9-10
for 19-20 y old player level 6 potencial 3 weeks
for 24 y l:6 potencial 4-5 weeks
for 19 y l:6 player with less than 48 min per week4-5 weeks

add on:
trained 3 positions 3/4/5 all the time

Last edited by ..tizu.. at 6/3/2008 12:02:26 PM

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Date: 6/3/2008 7:27:31 AM
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Even IS and ID takes 3 weeks for 1 pop for 19yo's with a lvl 9 trainer now. The speed decreased badly again.

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Date: 6/3/2008 7:42:16 AM
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Then transfer prices must be due to sky rocket.... it would seem that we are going to need maybe 1 more season to build some new youngsters to the level of the best players in circulation right now...

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Date: 6/3/2008 11:32:41 AM
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They won't even get close I guess. It's going well slow now, potential can't compensate the slower trainingspeed, only at the very long run. The current best players will be the best for the next seasons. I don't think we will see a lot of different players in the NTs.

2 seasons ago a player trained in 1 position popped 4 times in 5 weeks or something, now 3 times in 6 weeks.


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Date: 6/3/2008 12:46:02 PM
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It's going well slow now


So training is going slower since the new season started?

It's hard for me to tell, cause i switched from inside to outside training at the beginning of the season.

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From: jbmcrock

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Date: 6/3/2008 1:58:48 PM
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I would be surprised if Harrell is at his potential. Oberortner with a salary of 32K is still popping at regular intervals - just a bit slower than last season (as expected due to the increase in age and slowdown in training speed).

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Date: 6/3/2008 3:41:00 PM
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it is. I kept training inside, and my new 19yo's are training slower than my last seasons' 19yo's.

From: brian

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Date: 6/6/2008 11:19:52 AM
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I've actually been asking around to get info on OD training. Recently a top 20yo guard of mine trained:

2 weeks PG/SG pressure and 1 week PG pressure (8 trainer) and hasn't popped. Concerned he's hit his all-star potential soft cap, based partially on the info from this thread.


Pressure training
2 weeks PG only / 2 weeks PG/SG
trainer 8-9
for 20 yo 4 weeks
for 22 yo 3 weeks

The 20yo is the one I referred to above. His total skills add up to 77 (not including FT/ST). The 22yo (who double popped in OD/ID), now totals 75. Both players have all-star potential.

"Well, no ones gonna top that." - http://tinyurl.com/noigttt
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Date: 6/6/2008 6:29:18 PM
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Jump shot for forwards secondarily pops jump range too. Haven't gotten any other secondary pops (except for inside shot).

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