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the goal of the game is to create a competitive team as well as able to develop them and keeping yourself afloat financially.

you dont need to sell your whole team just trim em down in such a way your able to hold your finances and still stay ( at least ) in your own division after the season.

its useless to have a big arena if your losing, people wont come to your games as compare to those who wins so you need to balance your efforts on building the team as well as expanding your arena.

the truth is if we play by the rules, we are allowed to go under till we reach half a million and we forfeit the team your handling.

First of all, I understand what the goal of the game is, and I know the rules, thanks.


Secondly:
My division (since I play in division two in a country with more than 3000 users, not 100 or 200) is such that the difference between the first place team and the last or second last place team is VERY slim.

Last season I made the playoffs and structured my economy in such a way that I could count on more or less a 50k positive income a week.

This season, with two weeks notice, the economy was changed in a way that, without the Cup income (which is ridiculously low, so low infact that the most important teams have had to lose on purpose because fielding a competitive team for the Cup would be financially disasterous), my weekly income goes from -20k to 5k.
Fortunately, I don't have to trim down my team in order to avoid bankrupcy, because if I were to get rid of even one player, my chances of staying in my division would be very very slim.

Now, my question was this:
If, like the previous poster said, I have NO IDEA of knowing how the economy will be structured from one season to the next (actually from one week to the next), how am I supposed to "make long term programs " that will allow me to, as you say, "create a competitive team as well as able to develop them and keeping myself afloat financially"?

come on, with a weekly income of 5k you can... you can.. you can do.. nothing? :P

I can't even afford to do that...

First of all, I understand what the goal of the game is, and I know the rules, thanks.


Secondly:
My division (since I play in division two in a country with more than 3000 users, not 100 or 200) is such that the difference between the first place team and the last or second last place team is VERY slim.

You make it sound like you are the ONLY team in your division with a problem... everyone from your HUGE country and HUGE database of users has to adapt so where are you actually at a disadvantage vs your competitors... I would like to read HOW you feel you have been ill treated more than your peers....

Superfly Guy
(Big Country - Small Userbase)

First of all, I understand what the goal of the game is, and I know the rules, thanks.


Secondly:
My division (since I play in division two in a country with more than 3000 users, not 100 or 200) is such that the difference between the first place team and the last or second last place team is VERY slim.

You make it sound like you are the ONLY team in your division with a problem... everyone from your HUGE country and HUGE database of users has to adapt so where are you actually at a disadvantage vs your competitors... I would like to read HOW you feel you have been ill treated more than your peers....

Superfly Guy
(Big Country - Small Userbase)

I haven't (where did I ever say I was?).

We have all been ill-treated because of a problem we did not create, and now we are even being told that it is our fault. That is, quite frankly, very stupid. And I'm sure the BBs will agree with me.

SpicyMcHaggis
(Medium Country - Huge Userbase)

Speaking on my own, but i'm sure is not only my problem:
the point is not being at disadvantage with my peers; the problem is, if i've made a careful planning of my team's growth, i've to discover that my planning is useless, because economy is going to change in 2 weeks.
While i take the game very lightly, some users have more elaborated minds, and like the satisfaction of succes through careful planning: if you do big changes like this with such a short notice, you take them away a source of fun from the game.

I think this is the problem.

I think the problem is the bug that we know...

Add more seats, little by little (like you are doing at the moment- heeeeeyyyyy you don't really need my advice do you?), to that tiny little matchbox of an arena you play in. It is an insult to the great city of Grea Di Caddore or wherever the AS Barroom Heroes hail from that such an illustrious team in such an extremely difficult and competitive league plays in such a puny place. And, max out your prices tomorrow. None of this $63 bucks for a lower tier seat. You have sold them out 9 games in a row. What kind of programming is that? People WANT to sit in the lower tier in that closet you call a gym. Let them fight for the right to pay $70 a seat!!! Same with the bleachers. None of this $17 stuff. $20 or they can go eat gelatto.

Secondly, accept your plight as karma for this action:
Sergio Vega Sold BC Scarlets 12/21/2007 $ 12 000
Steigvilas Lazanas Sold Suc d frut united 12/3/2007 $ 8 000
Quim Limão Sold Charlys gangstas 12/2/2007 $ 15 000
Aleksandar Cubrilo Sold KAINES 12/2/2007 $ 8 000
Zhao Daoxiang Sold Kamicáceres 12/2/2007 $ 3 000
August Genelin Sold AS PauMoRoX 12/2/2007 $ 9 000
Živojin Cokic Sold Z Röselichöhl Defenders 12/2/2007 $ 27 000
Krisztián Adorján Sold Alemannia Aasterberg 12/2/2007 $ 20 000
Juan Carlos Vecina Sold Skubys Sonics 12/2/2007 $ 23 000
Jaroslaw Straczewski AS Barroom Heroes 12/2/2007 $ 1 000
Steigvilas Lazanas Bought Kučgalio torpedos 11/30/2007 $ 2 000
Živojin Cokic Bought 11/29/2007 $ 1 000
August Genelin Bought Saint City Celtics 11/29/2007 $ 1 000
Jaroslaw Straczewski Bought 11/29/2007 $ 1 000
Mati Rubinstein Bought 11/29/2007 $ 1 000
Krisztián Adorján Bought Pici Pockok 11/29/2007 $ 1 000
Juan Carlos Vecina Bought 11/29/2007 $ 1 000
Zhao Daoxiang Bought 11/29/2007 $ 2 000
Quim Limão Bought 11/29/2007 $ 1 000
Sergio Vega Bought 11/29/2007 $ 1 000
Feliks Ejsmont Bought Gorilla Brother`s 11/29/2007 $ 1 000
Aleksandar Cubrilo Bought 11/29/2007 $ 4 000

Thirdly, buy one more player- an 18year old who plays the position which you train and train him every week, no matter what, this season. Just before the end of the season, while you bite your nails over relegation, sell his ass to create a cushion for the several weeks you won't be getting any money.

Fourthly, your payroll is higher than anyone else in your division by about 15k (except for the Knickerbockers who are just a bit below you (roughly speaking because I just added up the thousands not the hundreds)) and they are the best team in your division at the moment. This leads me to believe that you could remain competitive and get a substantial amount of cash if you were to sell Urbano. At the moment he is your 6th leading scorer and 2nd leading rebounder but I have no doubt that Ye Faming will take up the slack and that Gleize and Belopoyodokopovodov will, with weekly training, improve enough to make his memory a faint one. With your 27k per week savings, add 50 bleachers a week. Every little bit helps. With the profit you get from Urbano minus the expense of one more 17k per week guy and one more trainee, do some math to see how much $$ you need for the weeks when you will be sitting at home wishing you were in the playoffs. Put that money aside and don't touch it. With some of the rest make one major arena upgrade.

I, of course, don't know what your finances look like at the moment. I do know that you recently bought Fivas for over 4 million dollars after the announcement about the changes. Maybe some fiscal responsibility training might help as well.
Good luck!!!






Last edited by somdetsfinest at 8/29/2008 12:37:41 PM

Ehm,ehm,ehm...do you think that a player which is in the italian second division doesn't know the game rules?
We are saying that is unjust to tax all the teams which play in higher division because there's some teams which have a bug with more and more subscription than all the teams of italian first division together...

Add more seats, little by little (like you are doing at the moment- heeeeeyyyyy you don't really need my advice do you?), to that tiny little matchbox of an arena you play in. It is an insult to the great city of Grea Di Caddore or wherever the AS Barroom Heroes hail from that such an illustrious team in such an extremely difficult and competitive league plays in such a puny place. And, max out your prices tomorrow. None of this $63 bucks for a lower tier seat. You have sold them out 9 games in a row. What kind of programming is that? People WANT to sit in the lower tier in that closet you call a gym. Let them fight for the right to pay $70 a seat!!! Same with the bleachers. None of this $17 stuff. $20 or they can go eat gelatto.

Secondly, accept your plight as karma for this action:
Sergio Vega Sold BC Scarlets 12/21/2007 $ 12 000
Steigvilas Lazanas Sold Suc d frut united 12/3/2007 $ 8 000
Quim Limão Sold Charlys gangstas 12/2/2007 $ 15 000
Aleksandar Cubrilo Sold KAINES 12/2/2007 $ 8 000
Zhao Daoxiang Sold Kamicáceres 12/2/2007 $ 3 000
August Genelin Sold AS PauMoRoX 12/2/2007 $ 9 000
Živojin Cokic Sold Z Röselichöhl Defenders 12/2/2007 $ 27 000
Krisztián Adorján Sold Alemannia Aasterberg 12/2/2007 $ 20 000
Juan Carlos Vecina Sold Skubys Sonics 12/2/2007 $ 23 000
Jaroslaw Straczewski AS Barroom Heroes 12/2/2007 $ 1 000
Steigvilas Lazanas Bought Kučgalio torpedos 11/30/2007 $ 2 000
Živojin Cokic Bought 11/29/2007 $ 1 000
August Genelin Bought Saint City Celtics 11/29/2007 $ 1 000
Jaroslaw Straczewski Bought 11/29/2007 $ 1 000
Mati Rubinstein Bought 11/29/2007 $ 1 000
Krisztián Adorján Bought Pici Pockok 11/29/2007 $ 1 000
Juan Carlos Vecina Bought 11/29/2007 $ 1 000
Zhao Daoxiang Bought 11/29/2007 $ 2 000
Quim Limão Bought 11/29/2007 $ 1 000
Sergio Vega Bought 11/29/2007 $ 1 000
Feliks Ejsmont Bought Gorilla Brother`s 11/29/2007 $ 1 000
Aleksandar Cubrilo Bought 11/29/2007 $ 4 000

Thirdly, buy one more player- an 18year old who plays the position which you train and train him every week, no matter what, this season. Just before the end of the season, while you bite your nails over relegation, sell his ass to create a cushion for the several weeks you won't be getting any money.

Fourthly, your payroll is higher than anyone else in your division by about 15k (except for the Knickerbockers who are just a bit below you (roughly speaking because I just added up the thousands not the hundreds)) and they are the best team in your division at the moment. This leads me to believe that you could remain competitive and get a substantial amount of cash if you were to sell Urbano. At the moment he is your 6th leading scorer and 2nd leading rebounder but I have no doubt that Ye Faming will take up the slack and that Gleize and Belopoyodokopovodov will, with weekly training, improve enough to make his memory a faint one. With your 27k per week savings, add 50 bleachers a week. Every little bit helps. With the profit you get from Urbano minus the expense of one more 17k per week guy and one more trainee, do some math to see how much $$ you need for the weeks when you will be sitting at home wishing you were in the playoffs. Put that money aside and don't touch it. With some of the rest make one major arena upgrade.

I, of course, don't know what your finances look like at the moment. I do know that you recently bought Fivas for over 4 million dollars after the announcement about the changes. Maybe some fiscal responsibility training might help as well.
Good luck!!!

Damn - you beat me to it!! (on the Fivas side - as I was bidding for him!!)

Care to tell me what I might be able to improve on (except diplomacy of course) ;-)



Last edited by Superfly Guy at 8/29/2008 5:30:05 PM