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This is a really silly discussion. In PL or even the end of season scrimmages you can test your real team in the tactics you want to try. Being able to try out tactics with a completly different team is not much better than just looking at box scores for other teams in your league that use different tactics. In fact for more informative than either is probably just using Coach Parrot to tell you what would happen.

I prefer the idea that you can choose the nation that you play in but I thiink this suggestion would get much more support and have less issues if all the teams played in the nation of Utopia as was suggested. No NT issues, no U21 issuesno B3 issues, no farming issues, no transfer issues. Ban any team not from Utopia from buying an Utopia player and let teams from Utopia ONLY buy Utopia players. It would be year 0 and 99.9% of all issues would be resolved.

It would just ruined the game and give users too many options for cheating.

So Holland was ruined because it allowed marihuana while all other countries banned it? what about smoking - is it better to ban cigarettes or allow smoking, but make it expensive?

Cheating in BB will exist either with the option for 2nd team or without. The only difference would be less cheating with 2nd team option and more revenue for BBs. I'm all for it.

That's actually a really good point. Just swayed my opinion, that's for sure. While I actually pay for the game, I like the idea that if I want to play for free, I won't be disadvantaged. I see loads and loads more games that have these little, "buy this and you'll get an advantage over your friends!" That, in every case, makes me drop the game immediately or never start it.

Existence of private leagues for supporters make this a somewhat flawed argument.

Last edited by Koperboy at 1/3/2014 8:08:32 AM

So Holland was ruined because it allowed marihuana while all other countries banned it? what about smoking - is it better to ban cigarettes or allow smoking, but make it expensive?

You're in a wrong movie mate.

Btw that's just 1 of many reasons why BB-s shouldn't approve this, you can read my other posts so you will get it.

Last edited by LA-King_Leonidas at 1/3/2014 8:13:04 AM

I wanna say again no need for second team for training farming a change of training would be better for example maybe teams can get three coaches and both of them can give different training for different positions not same ;)

The only difference would be less cheating with 2nd team option and more revenue for BBs

I agree with the more revenue part, but you cant say there will be less cheating if you allow second team. It is simply bullsh*t. Sorry for swearing but I cant find any nice way to say this. Second team just makes endless number of ways to cheat:D

But I have another idea. What about a second server, where everybody can make a second team? There will be no connection between servers so no way of transfering money, making farm teams for each other etc. I know that BBs will need money for second server, but they will get money from it too. Pretty much anybody who have supporter here will probably buy it there too, and probably somebody who joined late here(like me:D) will buy it there because he can be competitive over there, and cant be over here:)

I hope you could understand me, my english is pretty bad, but I did my best:) Also I know that this idea probably has a lot of problems, but I think that all those problems can be solved, and this can be idea that will make dying of BB stop:)

Btw that's just 1 of many reasons why BB-s shouldn't approve this, you can read my other posts so you will get it.

I read all your posts and I think you are just pushing your argument without considering what others have to say. Also you contradict yourself:

No one is safe, countries on Balkan too, that's a hot topic, imagine in one league people from Bosnia, Croatia, Serbia, Albania, Montenegro, Macedonia..

Quick example, Croatian managers train Bosnian players with their second clubs, Bosnian teams train Croatian players with their second clubs, we just make a deal, that is OK? ..

So to prove one of your arguments, you assume balkan nations wouldn't go along well...but to prove another argument, you assume balkan nations would go along well...

Possibility of cheating is already there. 2nd team wouldn't add anything to that. I can call my cousin from Croatia right now and ask for a favour - open up a BB account, buy two 18y HOFs from my country and train them like I want. I can do the same with my friend from Serbia, another friend from Italy...I can even log into their computer once a month to spare them the work!

2nd team wouldn't open up any possibilites of cheating that don't exist already. And actually what I described technically isn't cheating at all.

I respect other opinions, that not mean I must agree with them.

You know what is an example? Just a random thing of 1000... possibilities, so I chose the easiest way to get it closer to other.
It could be any country that make a deal, this is a double advantage to bigger countries, this is regular allowing to cheat and have farms.
The example with your cousins and friends is funny, don't need to comment this. I just ask, why didn't you do this if it is so good?

The cheating is not the biggest problem.
For me the biggest problem is that I want to play in my league with people from my country. It's simple as that. I don't want a International league or something like that, I play in my country league.

Imagine how would the micro nation leagues look like.

Again example, Pakistan 1 League

1 team from Pakistan
1 England
2 China
4 USA
1 Italy
1 Hong Kong
2 Espania
1 Argentina
2 Poland
1 Ukraine

Great, that would be an great 1st league for Pakistan users, they would really love it.

The example with your cousins and friends is funny, don't need to comment this. I just ask, why didn't you do this if it is so good?

Because that's not what the game is about...It's like asking "if you know how to pick locks, why don't you steal things from other people's appartments?" Well because there are things called dignity and honesty...

Again example, Pakistan 1 League

1 team from Pakistan
1 England
2 China
4 USA
1 Italy
1 Hong Kong
2 Espania
1 Argentina
2 Poland
1 Ukraine

Following your example, the way Pakistan league works right now is:

1 team from Pakistan
15 bots

I guess current state is much better, right? Tell me, what would make you leave the game sooner...international competition who you can learn from and actually have competitive games against, or whole season of 60pts+ wins? I think even if that lone Pakistan was a nationalist like you, he'd prefer playing against real teams, albeit foreigners, to 15 bots from his own country.

Great, that would be an great 1st league for Pakistan users, they would really love it.

Oh, they would hate it because you hate it, right? Just because you hate it, doesn't mean everyone else will feel the same.

Last edited by Koperboy at 1/3/2014 9:23:16 AM