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17401.6 in reply to 17401.1
Date: 2/27/2008 3:48:46 AM
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You can easily train two players per position, and possibly get some training for a 3rd player. This could either be a 3rd player who specializes at the position, or another starter who might also benefit from the additional skills (eg if you are training SG, a PG or SF will also benefit from training in the same skills).

You should focus on training positions rather training a skill. You will definitely want players who have both good offensive and good defensive skills.

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17401.7 in reply to 17401.6
Date: 2/27/2008 5:01:25 AM
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I agree with what jimrtex says….so I won’t repeat the advice he gives, but rather add to that.

SG, SF training in JS, JR, OD, PA, DR, HA
PF training in JS, IS, ID, RE, SB
C training in IS, IS, RE, SB

If you train 1 position you can train 3 players per week (if you have 3 games)

So I would start out by training JS as you can then train your SG, SF and PF.

After a couple of skill ups (max. up to Proficient) I would buy a Point Guard Trainee and train him instead of the Power Forward. Then I would train the other outside skills JR, OD, PA, DR, HA and maybe buy an additional 3 trainees (total of 6) and train 2 spots (PG and SG).

Don’t train any skill too high in the beginning as your wages will be too high (Respectable/Proficient is max), unless you want to sell the player, where you could take the player 1-2 levels higher. (Respectable is a bit low if you want to sell for a good price)

I like my players quite even in the relevant skills if I want to keep him as this is better for performance (IMO), and bump the skills - especially shooting - if you want to sell him. Prices seems to go much higher for good shooters for some reason.

And remember to train OD – good defence is very important for your team performance (you will meet many team that train shooting)

Also….be careful not to spend too much money on players in the beginning. I you train Outside Players just upgrade you Inside Positiions (C, PF) with nice well rounded players. Decent Inside players are very cheap. Just check the Center I have for sale - U don’t have to buy him  - I cannot sell him, even if he would contribute nicely to most new teams. And remember age does not matter on non-trainee positions.



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17401.8 in reply to 17401.3
Date: 2/27/2008 5:13:17 AM
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max age should be 19 for trainees


That ain't true if I have a 18 year old trainee I can train him until he is 23-24 or even more for him to be excellet. For a new team its really hard to afford a 18-19 year old trainee (good one atleast). So buy the best you can, train him for some time, sell for profit and buy a better one ;) 20-22 is ok to train also.

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17401.9 in reply to 17401.8
Date: 2/27/2008 6:09:26 AM
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That ain't true if I have a 18 year old trainee I can train him until he is 23-24 or even more for him to be excellet. For a new team its really hard to afford a 18-19 year old trainee (good one atleast). So buy the best you can, train him for some time, sell for profit and buy a better one ;) 20-22 is ok to train also.


Yes, I agree. 20-22 is ok for a trainee. I also train those, but I only for players that I intend to keep for a while. I think picking the optimal training is much more difficult, than for younger players. Especially now, that younger players are getting at training boost.

I believe, that a nice 19 y.o. trainee is not so high, especially Inside Players are quite cheap. (range: inept/mediocre to average on most relevant skills). With the fast training times it is pretty quick to turn these into very sellable players.

This player would be a decent trainee for a new team. And he was $1500. With a bit more money 1-2 skill could have been a bit higher.

Peng Difang (3231096)
Owner:
Aalborg Warriors

Weekly salary:
$ 2 864
DMI: 8400
Age: 18
Height: 6'3" / 190 cm
Game Shape: respectable
Jump Shot: inept Jump Range: average
Outside Def.: respectable Handling: average
Driving: awful Passing: inept
Inside Shot: atrocious Inside Def.: awful
Rebounding: mediocre Shot Blocking: pitiful
Stamina: average Free Throw: mediocre

Experience: atrocious



Last edited by Blacksword at 2/27/2008 6:58:01 AM

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17401.10 in reply to 17401.7
Date: 2/27/2008 7:04:35 AM
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heya again, cheers for the replies... really helpful!

So I would start out by training JS as you can then train your SG, SF and PF.

How can i train exactly those three? i only get the option to either train 2 of those together or then the whole team. (wingmen, guards etc..)

So the basic strategy at the beginning is basically finding 2-3 solid centers, 2-3 solid PG's and then shuffle and train SG/SF and PF?


Just check the Center I have for sale - U don’t have to buy him  - I cannot sell him, even if he would contribute nicely to most new teams. And remember age does not matter on non-trainee positions.


Sorry, not to familiar yet with inspecting other teams.. if i check your transfer history i only see the completed ones. How much are you selling him for?

Cheers





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17401.11 in reply to 17401.9
Date: 2/27/2008 7:10:10 AM
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i just checked your roster, i see which one you want to sell now.. :)

i have this guy called "Guillaume Waltenspül", which is i supose quite an ok center, additional i have 2 20 year old guys on the center position i intend to give some gametime aswell.. would that be a decent solution?

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17401.12 in reply to 17401.11
Date: 2/27/2008 12:02:04 PM
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have you decided on what positions you are training? C/PF seems to be the easiest for players to train as those positions require less training than guards. plus you have a lot of young centers and power forwards.

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17401.13 in reply to 17401.10
Date: 2/27/2008 3:28:09 PM
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How can i train exactly those three? i only get the option to either train 2 of those together or then the whole team. (wingmen, guards etc..)


Yeah, you're right. You have 2 positions that receive training in JS. So I would make sure I had 6 trainees (SG and PG only). Training PF at the same time is quite complicated as the you train both in JS without playing some totally out of position. And that will most likely hurt your performance.

So I would definately go with 6 SG/PG trainees, which means you would have to buy a few more. This will make you the best profit, and will also give you better results.

Shuffling between outside and inside training is not a good idea - at least not in the beginning. I tried it for a short time, but just to give my SF and PF a bump before going back to outside skill. But this requires a couple of very good player in both positions, as you are sacrificing for some of your normal outside players. I think this is only adviseable if your main trainees are your SF's.


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17401.14 in reply to 17401.13
Date: 2/27/2008 3:45:07 PM
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If possible i would avoid anything less than awful inside shot for any player. Just my personal opinion though.

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17401.15 in reply to 17401.5
Date: 2/28/2008 1:33:51 AM
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mate - dont bother with stamina til you have the nucleus of a squad you want to keep...it honestly has no effect (that ive seen) on performance.. maybe on final ratings but my players have no stamina (max inept) and i dont care.

FT again nah.. if you have 8 players who you want to keep great if not skip it for now.

The above 2 to my knowlege train the same speed at any age.. given this and the fact the other skills train faster at the moment then why bother??

Go for the positions based on the trainees you secure yourself. I always train 2 positions and try to get 5 or sometimes 6 people the right minutes.. whilst you are accumalating your trainees you will probably stagger starting with 1 position (so PG or SG or C) then as you get your full range of trainees then this will open up more training regimes...

Stamina IMO has yet to be implemented correctly.. if a rule change effects me for the worse i will just suck it and train it for 3 weeks.... until then its burgers and fries all the way if they can keep scoring as they have been!!

Good luck