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180097.7 in reply to 180097.6
Date: 4/13/2011 9:39:05 AM
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The problem here is that player cap is not affected by the total skill points but the calculated salary for those skills.

The numbers come from the salary cap that you found in the Help minus the salary drops in the last 2 seasons.

From this 2 statements i have only one issue.

allstar = 60k salary is an allstar player that could play in the national league
allstar = 45k salary is a mediocre player.

My idea was that if the salary droped the he should be able to get back to 60k salary making him a better player and not move his cap down.
I train him from when he was 18 and when he is 21 i could fire him because he is to weak for a div I team and his worth a penny.

Hope they increase the number of >7 potential players.

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180097.10 in reply to 180097.8
Date: 4/14/2011 5:21:38 AM
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The way it has impacted the potential is in this way:

Let's say that he could still get the same skills as before but now he will reach his cap at 45-50k salary
A perennial allstar will now get from the 120k cap to about 100k salary (i don't know if this is the accurate value but i think that is close enough) witch will make a big hole between the two.
In terms of skills he could be pretty close to what he could be before but the issue is that he capped at 22 years and the training plan is redundant now.And so is the allstar potential.
I try to be objective about this issue but i seems to me that for a div I team the allstar potential is useless.

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180097.11 in reply to 180097.1
Date: 4/14/2011 6:16:07 AM
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The one good thing (at least for me, sorry mate) is realizing how very SLOW can training be after the cap is reached.

Seriously, 6 weeks of 1-pos pressure training on a 6'1" 22-old player and no pops? Damn.

I know it's easy to say this now, but with low potential players (well, at least low for your team) it's good to ask yourself something before beginning training: What do I want this player to be?

Because obviously, with limited potential come limited skills. So an allstar cannot be all-around great PG, but more like either scorer/defender or passer/defender.

That's why I think you should concentrate only on those skills that are important for your team. If you are playing a lot of Look inside/Low post, train Driving and Passing (and IS a bit) and don't train too much Jump Range. And viceversa for an outside tactic.

The main thing when training such a player is which skills contribute more to skillcap and which less. For PGs, that's JR, OD and PA (in that order, I think). So in order to train a limited player, you will have to leave out one of these three.

Let me show you my two trainees:

Vanja Zorin (15079234)
Point Guard
Owner: KK Bonifika

Weekly salary: $ 8 918
Role: regular starter
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DMI: 134100
Age: 20
Height: 6'0" / 183 cm
Potential: allstar
Game Shape: strong
Jump Shot: sensational Jump Range: inept
Outside Def.: sensational Handling: prolific
Driving: sensational Passing: proficient
Inside Shot: pitiful Inside Def.: respectable
Rebounding: pitiful Shot Blocking: atrocious
Stamina: mediocre Free Throw: strong

Experience: pitiful

Armin Maierle (15079213)
Shooting Guard
Owner: KK Bonifika

Weekly salary: $ 10 956
Role: regular starter
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DMI: 89300
Age: 21
Height: 6'4" / 193 cm
Potential: allstar
Game Shape: strong
Jump Shot: sensational Jump Range: strong
Outside Def.: prolific Handling: prolific
Driving: prolific Passing: inept
Inside Shot: pitiful Inside Def.: respectable
Rebounding: mediocre Shot Blocking: respectable
Stamina: inept Free Throw: respectable

Experience: pitiful


Zorin is more of a PG (with passing and JR training starting in next season), while Maierle is more of a Shooting guard. I can't develop all important skills equally and that's why Zorin will have not more than Respectable JR, but Sensational Passing, while Maierle will have no more than Respectable Passing, but Prominent or even Prolific JR.




Last edited by Koperboy at 4/14/2011 6:18:36 AM

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180097.12 in reply to 180097.10
Date: 4/14/2011 6:19:06 AM
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His salary will have dropped, too. So he will achieve the exact same skills as before, at the same point of time. He'll just be a bit cheaper.

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180097.13 in reply to 180097.12
Date: 4/14/2011 2:36:49 PM
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:)) nice conclusion.
Thanks for the post LA-Koperboy.
Now to get back to my point as in the upper post exemple i couldn't affort to have a player like that on my rooster because a PG without JR will kill any chances of playing outside offensive or a PG without passing that will not get me the assists that i need or get a lot of TOs.
I tryied this player as an experiment to see if this was the case, i've always trained allstar player to become real allstars but now it doesn't seem to be the case any longer.
As some of you may have pointed out that is not really an issue because he could have had about the same skills you should look at PG that are well beyond the 60k border and i don't think at the age of 22 he could have capped age wise.
I am talking about the experience of this game and from my point of view is that this somehow dissapointing.