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There are too many Cheaters in BB world.

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185084.6 in reply to 185084.1
Date: 5/16/2011 4:39:00 AM
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In principle I agree with you. I hate cheaters just as much as the next guy.

In practice, for every 9 cheaters from the additional methods you listed above, there would be 1 genuine team. e.g a team that is on holiday or exchange at a different country or perhaps the joy of a team is training NT players rather than promotion.

Do we condemn the genuine teams because they "possibly" are cheaters?

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Date: 5/16/2011 5:09:16 AM
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In principle I agree with you. I hate cheaters just as much as the next guy.

In practice, for every 9 cheaters from the additional methods you listed above, there would be 1 genuine team. e.g a team that is on holiday or exchange at a different country or perhaps the joy of a team is training NT players rather than promotion.

Do we condemn the genuine teams because they "possibly" are cheaters?


It's just a suggestion, it's determined by BBs. I point it out just because this kind of thing can't happen in real life. The best player want to stay in the best league. But if BBs say:Money is the key in this game, it's also reasonable.

IF a team is a Genuine one, it should be judged by GMs, but if we have any doubt on a bid , the first thing is report to GMs.(esp. the final price is much higher than system evaluation.


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185084.8 in reply to 185084.5
Date: 5/16/2011 5:18:21 AM
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you could keep your team even when you move, so when i move to australia i could still play my german team, maybe i even move just for one year etc.


Of course you are right, but you can't deny some managers in small country are neither living nor born there. What they want is just building their team fastly than in his own country.

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185084.9 in reply to 185084.8
Date: 5/16/2011 5:42:21 AM
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you could keep your team even when you move, so when i move to australia i could still play my german team, maybe i even move just for one year etc.


Of course you are right, but you can't deny some managers in small country are neither living nor born there. What they want is just building their team fastly than in his own country.


i can not deny it .. And that ain't easy cases, if they only cheat to get in and play fair there. And it is hard to see for us, which teams just registered there during vacances(or use a difficult to spot proxy), or now living under different circumstances. and i believe most people are in group two, even when it probadly different for the tiny countrys.
But i don't want to apply different rules for the bahmas then for germany.

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185084.11 in reply to 185084.5
Date: 5/16/2011 8:28:30 AM
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or when a player is put onto the market, we can't find out his information except his skills, age and potential until the bid is over.

What change do you promise through that?

If I got this right I guess the idea here is making the transfers anonymous. You would only see the skills/age/potential (+gameshape, I would think) on TL and make your choice based on that information. You would not know from which team you are buying or the name of the player. This information would be revealed only after the transfer.

This would certainly make cheating a bit more difficult but unfortunately not impossible. Anyway, I don't like the idea.

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185084.12 in reply to 185084.11
Date: 5/16/2011 9:05:27 AM
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I don't see how this would make cheating more difficult...with the ability to narrow a search with the salary, age, and 4 skills, the cheater could find the player quite easily. Also, reporting teams for cheating would become quite hard as the names of the players and the teams selling would be hidden.

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185084.13 in reply to 185084.12
Date: 5/16/2011 9:15:40 AM
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You answered in part why cheating would not become impossible (there are ways to find specific players from TL). You also answered in part why it would become more difficult (you would need to spend time finding the players, which may sometimes be time consuming). You also found one of the reasons why I don't like this idea: by making the transfers anonymous, it becomes much harder for the average user to make cheating reports.

From: Nick

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185084.15 in reply to 185084.14
Date: 5/16/2011 9:41:55 AM
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And what is the disadvantage that "normal users" can detect cheating in TL?

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