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From: shikago

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Date: 4/16/2012 7:16:49 AM
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It's my belief that 5th place is better than even 3rd place in many cases.

About the fan survey for next season... I'm highly skeptical of any long term benefit from coming in 4th & losing the playoff game in a blowout (remember it counts as a TV game), vs. tanking a non-TV game & finishing 5th.

But the fan survey in general is messed up. I remember when I won 20 games plus swept the playoffs. And got my lowest fan survey of the entire season (3 balls) after winning the championship! (Even lower than after getting blown out in a rivalry game!) & more recently... I got a 2 1/2 ball fan survey after winning the cup & making the playoffs too. That same season I actually had higher fan surveys after back to back losses than after back to back wins. It makes no sense...

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Date: 4/16/2012 8:57:48 AM
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Until the BB's pull out some hard facts that the game engine rewards teams that make the playoffs far more in attendence revencue to make up for the hundreds of thousands in extra salary the have to pay in the playoffs, I'm a firm believer that 5th place is far more financially rewarding than 3rd or 4th place and probably even 2nd place.

I finished in 4th place last season, made the league final and still have a low 'previous season' rating on my fan survey and struggled mightily to fill seats early this season.

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I finished in 4th place last season, made the league final and still have a low 'previous season' rating on my fan survey and struggled mightily to fill seats early this season.

That's the problem in my opinion the fan survey needs to be reformed.

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From: Stajan
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Date: 4/16/2012 6:21:50 PM
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Interesting responses, mostly in line with my thinking. I guess ultimately you're damned if you do, and you're damned if you don't.

Part of my attendance problem must be due to me tanking so many road games anyways, I've done that 5 times this season right before one of my home games.

From: Ruaidri

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Date: 4/16/2012 6:39:49 PM
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bankers get fifth, those with balls get fourth!

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Date: 4/16/2012 7:56:18 PM
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I'd have to definitely agree with the managers who claim 5th is much better than 4th (or probably third either other than by being in the POs a team might possibly have a chance to win). I don't think that there is any evidence whatsoever of higher attendance. My club has now made the playoffs for 16 straight seasons—with the last 13 in II—and my number of STHs is no higher today than it was in that first season in II. And my attendance has suffered dramatically as I try to figure out a way to stay out of bankruptcy.It has become very painfully obvious that the BB developers have gone completely overboard in removing money from the game—via paltry Cup proceeds, staff acquisition costs, free agents, lower attendance, the list goes on. The lack of balance between divisions in different countries comes into play also. There are high-division teams in certain small countries that have cash balances in excess of $20M while many good solid franchises are in severe financial straits.

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Date: 4/17/2012 3:00:54 AM
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Part of my attendance problem must be due to me tanking so many road games anyways, I've done that 5 times this season right before one of my home games.


Tanking home games is the better way to go - get a PR dude that helps you on the road and try to win there.

Weird situation.

From: Tangosz

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Date: 4/17/2012 10:46:21 AM
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Yeah, omitting the fact that you tanked so many road games certainly changes...just about everything with respect to what I said above.

From: brian

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Date: 4/18/2012 10:10:10 PM
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enjoy playing with your balls instead of extra money.

I'd go for 5th.

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From: Eagle

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Date: 4/19/2012 1:28:08 AM
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Finishing 5th is better financially, but I'd fight for a playoff spot because winning is the fun of the game IMO.
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From: brian

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Date: 4/19/2012 8:38:42 AM
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You choose a longshot chance of winning one extra game in the short term over better finances to secure more wins in the long term. I choose the latter.

Players are cheap. A couple weeks of payroll savings are enough to add a good player for most teams.

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