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The issue isn't how fast his inside skills train, it's how awful his outside skills are. They're so low that he's really not worth training IMO. At least I wouldn't train him to keep. I would pump his inside skills and sell him when he's 19 or 20.

So I am training him in RB with my other trainee right now, then he will be getting some IS training and then once my other trainee caps (only allstar potential), I will train his ID. So does anyone have any training advice? And does anyone know about when a superstar caps?

Rotate the training a lot (don't spend too too many consecutive weeks on just one skill) and try not to train a skill to a much higher level than its' related skill (IS, ID, RB). Avoid having SB 4-5 levels below RB or ID as it slow down ID/RB training. Don't forget 1 on 1 for SF/PF.

I've seen the elastic effect working positively numerous times. 5 pops in ID in 6 weeks on a 18y old and 6 pops in PA in 7 weeks on 20y old. None of that would happen if it wasn't for elastic effect.

If it works positively, it also works negatively

Just out of curiosity, were those players who were "born" with elastically linked skills at very different levels, or did you train them to set up an elastic effect?

I would assume that the 18 year old was just born with low ID, but good other inside skills. But what about the 20 year old? The question I always come back to is whether you can really create an elastic effect that ends up giving net benefit in total training, or do you slow some skills down as might as you speed up others.

Also, with the cross training penalty, you might lose more and more training as you pump some skills far above others.

The 18y old had these inside skills:

IS 7, ID 2
RB 5, SB 7

So he already brought his elastic effect from college.

The 20y old had these stats:

OD 13, HA 12
DR 13, PA 4

I don't know if 1 on 1 training was slower because of low PA. My theory is 1 on 1 somewhat speeds up especially OD and PA, and JR to a lesser extent. I haven't noticed though 1 on 1 is slower if HA or DR are 5-6 levels above OD/PA. 20y old was trained in such a way that HA was never more than 3 levels above OD. He also popped 3 times in OD in 4 weeks as a 18y old (probably had high sublevel also).

Now I always start with at least 3-4 weeks of 1 on 1 on my 18y old guards and then continue with OD. Same training plan are using all 18y Slovenes from this draft (I was recently elected as our country's U21 manager). Well, at least those who agree with such plan. The "products" can very well be seen on players like (21392088) and (114369). For reasons you probably know, I can't give away their skills right now.

My player Dean Polh was also trained in such a way, and at end of his 20 years he had these skills:

JS 12, JR 12
OD 14, HA 12
DR 13, PA 11

So 74 skill points in outside skills, which seems pretty good to me. I have to say though he started with all six skills at respectable except for JR which was Average.

Thanks for sharing LA-Koperboy! Very interesting results.

Your 20 yo is one of the better documented PA elastic effects I've seen. The link to HA and DR seems very plausible too, given those are secondaries in PA training. I personally haven't used the 1v1 weeks to start a trainee's career, but it's not a bad idea. I typically just rotate training every week, and try to get PA up quickly. Makes the trainee a little less painful to play at PG in Cup games if they can get a bit more PA.

Great results on those players though. Can't argue with that!!

Thanks again.

No problem man, we have to share the knowledge!

I'll have to say though those 7 weeks of PA weren't consecutive. 6 yes, then four weeks of 1 on 1 and JS, then PA again. Maybe some of cross training from 1 on 1 and JS went to PA and he barely touched the next level of skill. But cross training effect during those four weeks is so small it can be easily disregarded.