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228470.6 in reply to 228470.5
Date: 10/17/2012 2:25:26 AM
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Since we r talking about drafting/training, how old should a HOF pop? I have a 24yo HOF who Id like to get a few extra pops, but from what I hear players will pop at the latest at 24-25, so with a HOF should he pop at least a couple times?

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228470.7 in reply to 228470.6
Date: 10/17/2012 2:42:15 AM
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I think he still has a lot of pops in him... With Hall Of Famers i think you can get them to still be popping at 26 but it just goes slower.

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228470.8 in reply to 228470.7
Date: 10/17/2012 6:28:36 AM
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I have two point guards that are 27 that still pop occasionally. One has MVP potential and the other perennial all-star potential. The pops are not as frequent but can still be made even into the 30's. It just will not be as frequent as a younger guy which makes sense.

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228470.9 in reply to 228470.8
Date: 10/17/2012 9:19:09 AM
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Just in this whole discussion, I want to clarify that potential makes absolutely no difference in how fast a player will pop at a given age. A 24 year old Hall of Famer will not pop any faster than a 24 year old allstar, assuming neither player is capped. Some of these comments sound like you think the higher potential will help the player pop faster, and that isn't the case.

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228470.10 in reply to 228470.9
Date: 10/17/2012 9:55:30 AM
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It only affects how long you can train him, right??

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228470.11 in reply to 228470.10
Date: 10/17/2012 1:24:01 PM
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Kind of. It's all about the cap--it would take a HOF player longer to hit his cap than it would take for a star player. But it's not a matter of how long you train a player, it's a matter of what skills you train relative to the cap. You can train a superstar potential player and cap them out by the end of their 21yo season by pushing their most cap-heavy primaries, or you can train a balanced SF and train them until they're 25-26 without capping. For example, think of the difference between Marshall Ray this year ($12K salary) and Bud Saldana last year ($100K salary). But yes, in most cases a higher potential will mean you can train a player longer.

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228470.12 in reply to 228470.11
Date: 10/17/2012 3:17:49 PM
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thanks for the input guys, at 24 with a HOF potential, I'm thinking I can get some pops on the primaries. His JR and OD are both strong, so I want at least a couple pops there, shouldn't be a problem I'm guessing.

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228470.13 in reply to 228470.11
Date: 5/27/2013 5:04:40 AM
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Can someone tell me what to look for while scouting? rating, potential, stats,...

I'm looking for guys I want to train myself and don't have much of a preference as of now.

I'm especially interested in knowing how to read the stats! Should I value these stats more then the orange balls, or can I forget about them?

say:
lets assume I'd like to get a SF and two of them look like:
1) 5balls 40min 7/15fg 1/3threes 2/2ft 1or 5tr 6as 5to 3stl 2 blk 1pf 17pts
2) 2balls 40min 12/19fg 1/4threes 7/9ft 0or 2tr 1as 2to 2stl 1blk 2pf 32pts
who do you like more?

furthermore I'd like to know if I should forget about a PG I like only because he is 6-10

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228470.14 in reply to 228470.13
Date: 5/27/2013 9:55:53 AM
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Largely forget about them. The balls tell you about the actual skills. The box scores may give you a few rough ideas of what the player may be like. In this case, player 1 is much better, b/c 5 ball-skills. Don't even consider a player with 2-ball skills unless you've interviewed him for some reason and he has high potential.

What the box score can be useful for is getting a rough idea of some key skills. For example, a guard with 8+ rebounds likely has high rebounding, a center w/ 0 assists and 7 turnovers likely has atrocious passing, a player with 20 minutes played likely has really low stamina, a player who commits 4-5 fouls is likely very aggressive. But even these aren't 100% accurate, so plenty of experienced managers will say forget the box score altogether.

6'10" PG can be a great SF candidate. You know he'll have solid outside skills, and if he has good secondary inside skills then you're in business. Definitely do not forget about him.

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228470.16 in reply to 228470.15
Date: 5/27/2013 2:44:39 PM
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Thanks!

If he is a PG, will he always have the "PG"-trademark or can it change to e.g. SF?
And does it make a difference which official position a player is tagged with anyway?

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