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Here is where I wonder if Rebound Ratings mean anything at all.

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288583.6 in reply to 288583.5
Date: 7/22/2017 8:26:13 PM
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It doesn't matter who you put in at rebounding.

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288583.8 in reply to 288583.6
Date: 7/22/2017 10:08:33 PM
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It doesn't matter who you put in at rebounding.


I don't think that is true.

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288583.9 in reply to 288583.8
Date: 7/22/2017 11:01:25 PM
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I don't think those ratings are defaulted. Otherwise, every team would be the exact same as far as rebounding if it was default. The game ratings show that he is a slightly better rebounding team that his opponent and yet he got killed on the boards. Could it be because you picked his pace wrong? Did the game engine punish you for that wrong guess in the form of a rebounding penalty? It's just odd to see such a gap.

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288583.10 in reply to 288583.9
Date: 7/23/2017 1:35:12 AM
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I don't think those ratings are defaulted. Otherwise, every team would be the exact same as far as rebounding if it was default. The game ratings show that he is a slightly better rebounding team that his opponent and yet he got killed on the boards. Could it be because you picked his pace wrong? Did the game engine punish you for that wrong guess in the form of a rebounding penalty? It's just odd to see such a gap.


My thoughts exactly. I mean, I guess if ratings state the inherent strength of the team on an average night with that lineup, then this kind of makes sense. Things can always go one way or the other when left to chance and 'how the ball bounces'. However, I always thought that the ratings had more to do with how your team performed in the game. I could be totally wrong there.

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288583.14 in reply to 288583.10
Date: 7/23/2017 6:27:08 AM
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My take is that:
1) the difference is mostly in offensive rebounding percentage
2) the numbers don't add up fir either team
3) you should check for the dreaded rebounds out of bounds that do not show up in the box score.

What we need to know is: real DREB% for both teams, real OREB% for both and the percentages of rebounds lost out of bounds. Unfortunately it appears the box score is not completely accurate.

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288583.15 in reply to 288583.14
Date: 7/23/2017 2:25:51 PM
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3) you should check for the dreaded rebounds out of bounds that do not show up in the box score.


You mean the 'bounces up and over the backboard' rebounds?

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288583.16 in reply to 288583.12
Date: 7/23/2017 2:47:29 PM
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If we assume that for each rebound each team has equal probability ot grabing it (since the ratings were very similar)
According to Bernoulli distribution, the probability of one of the teams to grab 48 or less out of 114 total rebounds is:
p=0.111

It means that in 11 games out of each 100 games like that, there will be a rebounding difference like that or bigger.

Now, if you look randomly for games with equal rebounding ratings between both teams, and the actual rebounding difference is singnificantly different than that, you will have a point.


Adding FT's missed with the potential for a rebound, I get total misses of 126 (62 Opp, 64 Sungrazers).
Does that change the number much?
Either way, this just seems like it one of those inexplicable things, like a good shooter going 0-18 from the field on a random night.

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