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293980.7 in reply to 293980.6
Date: 4/25/2018 10:11:29 AM
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¡Ostras, perdona! No leí tu mensaje anterior. Sí, creo que va a ser lo que comentas. Me imagino que debe ocurrir con ambas cajas.

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Date: 4/26/2018 12:45:30 PM
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Tu mejor defensor en las cajas (sea interna o externa), el llamado +1, es quien tiene la mayor suma de la habilidades defensivas: Def Ext+ Def. Int.+ Tapones+ Resistencia.

Así que ahí tienes que jugar, el motor lo decide así... si ves que tu mejor defensor tiene 20 de defensa exterior, entonces es mejor que lo mandes a marcar al mejor atacante externo del oponente con una caja interna+1. Y la caja externa no te serviría mucho ya que marcaría al mejor atacante interno.

Es algo enredado jajaja

En Tierra de Leyendas y Gigantes
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293980.13 in reply to 293980.8
Date: 4/27/2018 4:15:27 AM
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De las Reglas:

Defensas Caja y Uno: Cuatro jugadores juegan en defensa zonal protegiendo la canasta, mientras que el quinto jugador hace marcaje individual al mejor atacante del otro equipo. Este marcaje le impide anotar tanto. Hay dos tipos de defensas Caja y Uno:

Caja y Uno Interior: El quinto defensor se centra en el marcaje del mejor anotador interior del rival. Ritmo normal.

Caja y Uno Exterior: El quinto defensor se centra en el marcaje del mejor anotador exterior. Ritmo normal.

Yo la verdad que no las he usado casi.

Pero si tienes comprobado que es al reves, algun GM o La debería arreglarlo, con razón a nadie le funcionan las cajas si hace al revés de la descripción de las reglas.


Lo probaré en algun partido intrascendente a ver.

Vendría a ser Caja y Uno Interior: Mas bien sería Caja Interior cuatro jugadores dentro protegiendo la zona y +1 Defendiendo al mejor exterior.

Y Caja y Uno Exterior: Quedaría en Caja Exterior 4 jugadores en caja abiertos pegados al triple y +1 defendiendo en individual al mejor interior.

Correcto?

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293980.14 in reply to 293980.13
Date: 4/27/2018 9:49:03 AM
Fab Five
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El hilo: Inside/outside box and 1
http://www.buzzerbeater.com/community/forum/read.aspx?thr...

Los comentarios de Nachtmahr:

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Guys, why do you start new discussions about already clear things every couple of months?

Before the game, the engine takes both teams. It calculates, based on the skills, who is the best offense player and who is the best defense player. Nothing more and nothing less. The defense player isn't the guy with the highest OD or ID, it's the player with the highest overall defense. And that's the one who has the best OD+ID+SB+ST rating. For a lot of teams it's the SF or PF.
This defender will play against the best engine calculated offense player. Based on the defense power of the +1, there are three possible outcomes:
1) the defender sucks and the offense guy will score like he wants
2) defense and offense are equal and the offense player will have problems, but will be still one of the dominant players
3) the defender is a beast and shuts the offense player down

If 3) is the case, the engine will switch to another scoring option. So it can happen, that your +1 defender plays against a guy who takes only five or six shots during the whole game. The reason for this is his high defense.
The other four guys will play with their box against the offense of the opponent. And the engine will decide who is the new scoring option. So the guy who takes most of the shots is only scoring option nr. 2 in reality.

And there is more stuff to the boxes than I don't want to reveal. :D I have to be sure that I still have some advantages left for my own teams and the german NT. (j)

So if the best overall defender will guard the best offensive player, what's the difference between box in the perimeter and box inside?

The difference is that with one box your defender will guard the best Guard, and with the otehr one the best Big.

the +1 will guard only the outside/inside shots depending on the box choice?

No, he will defend all the shots of his opponent. It doesn't matter if it's a 3pt or a dunk.


if the offensive player is a SG and your +1 is also a SG with 20 OD (a match in favor of the defense), what will be the difference between the box defenses?

The difference is that with one box, your SG with OD will defend the SG and with the other one he will defend the PF or C (best inside player).

I never said that with inside box +1 the best inside player will be guarded, did I?
I just said that in one defense your best defender will guard the best guard and in the other one the best big.
During the last weeks, even before this thread started, we discussed and analized games in my federation. We came to some interessting conclusions. Like some time ago when I took a lock at 3-2 ;-)

the thing is, all the shots by the SG were guarded by my PF, 22 shots all checked

Yes, that's because the two boxes are switched... or the manual text is wrong.

I already reported it to Marin several weeks ago. From my data, the manual is wrong about the two boxes.

It works like this (my opinion):
Inside box+1:
Best defender defends the best outside scorer and the box moves to the paint.

Outside box+1:
Best defender defends the best inside scorer and the box moves to the perimeter.

You played an Inside box+1. So for me, it's no suprise that your PF defended his SG. I have more such games listed in my fed. We made some tests this season.

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293980.15 in reply to 293980.14
Date: 4/29/2018 8:30:39 AM
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Gracias Fab

Pues se confirma entonces, a que esperan a cambiarlo.

Saludos

From: GrFlur

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293980.16 in reply to 293980.15
Date: 4/29/2018 3:47:47 PM
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You no se vosotros pero

Outside box + 1 lo traduzco por caja exterior +1

inside box +1 lo traduzco por caja interior +1

lo que marca el interior exterior es la caja, no el +1

Howl to the Moon, you won't regret it.
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