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If I buy a prepaid visa for $30 is that enough for the paypal option or is there a fee?

The PayPal option I believe you can just input your credit or debit card directly. That's what I did at least. You shouldn't have to buy a separate card for it.

The reason why people aren't playing the game is because to fully develop a top quality player takes 3 years of real life. It doesn't really matter if they had $20,000. People will join, pump the user base back up to 60k like it was before, and people will realize they need so long to develop a new player and leave.

Sadly, I don't have a fix to this solution. Devs don't have a fix to this solution. It's how the game was structured some 12 years ago and hasn't changed a bit. I don't know of another game where progress is so slow, this requires a patient userbase. Sadly in this era we all want a new 2K or madden game every year and we want fast player development. Thats not possible on BB, so people leave.

Advertising won't change much, some people will stick around, but the majority will leave.

4X pace separate server would be a good solution; 4weeks a season. It is still alot. I could do 16X pace

Last edited by Vilkai [LTU NT] at 5/22/2019 3:48:47 PM

I think that is part of the fun. I wouldn't give a single crap about training players if it didn't take any time or effort. The process and having the same players for many seasons is what makes this game fun and what makes this game realistic. To end that aspect of the game would be an absolute f***ing shame.

I can promise you if BB switches to training players are 3x speed than what they are right now, everyone would start creating 21 year old monsters and I would probably leave. I love that BB rewards managers who have patience and have a process.

It also doesn't take 3 years. I assume you are talking about training a HOF player for the NT from 18 years of age. That is the only thing that makes sense with your timeline. Every season is roughly 3 months. So you are talking about doing 12 seasons of training, which implies you are training someone until they are 30. Hardly anyone does that.

To create and train a player that can start in D.II or D.I you really only need to train them for about 7 seasons, not 12. Sure you can always make them better, but at age 25-26, if you have trained them well, they should be able to start or at least play substantial minutes in the NBBA.

You can train a player that can start in D.III in the USA in 3 seasons. Many of the 21 year old U21 NT players could start in D.III and be a role player/start in D.II by the age of 22-23. When you look at it that way, I think the training process makes sense.

This is not a game for people who want the same speed as 2k. BB doesn't need to change their identity. They just need to advertise more and reach more people who love the manager styled aspect, and I know there are plenty of people out there who do love BB and would love BB if they knew about the site.

I'm not necessarily saying its a bad thing, hell I've been around on and off for 32 seasons now myself, I love it! But the amount of patient people searching for old clunky online web games are very slim. The younger population is gonna be swayed away from the old design and pacing, the older population likely isn't searching for random online basketball manager games. Thus the population is slim and limited.

You want a real change, don't spend the money on advertising. Pay a gaming web dev $10,000 and have them fix up how the site looks. This will at least make the game more aesthetically pleasing and get more of the younger audience involved.

As far as pace, maybe start up a second new server where everyone gets their entry 300k and we start fresh but with faster seasons. You'd need to reword how GS works and tweak a few monetary things, but it would work. Would everyone play it, no, but would it have a better retention rate then what exists now, absolutely.

An app is a good idea, i'll need to see how they implement and advertise, but pacing is still gonna be a problem and I see a second server as a feasible solution that many other web games have done.

It's utopic but it's actually something thats gonna generate a userbase. We'd need a draft of players for every league because the number of players needed to be generated would be huge. Possibly money can buy player upgrades, arena upgrades, and trainers all the same as it does now.

I like the idea but the game does need something new. The old heads will disagree, but if there is no adaptions in 10 years the game is gonna die out. We play it because BB is unique, the issue is that's not gonna do a great job of keeping users. There are no games around with large userbases that haven't made massive changes in their 11 year lifespan, it's time for BB to grow up or slowly die out.

We play it because BB is unique, the issue is that's not gonna do a great job of keeping users. There are no games around with large userbases that haven't made massive changes in their 11 year lifespan, it's time for BB to grow up or slowly die out.

You are right, its unique. Thats way im here since season 2. We have enough empty and souless stuff around us. No need to make one more. It will cost you identity. This is what about. Quality is not judged by user number or likes on the wall.

By the way, this game is dieing like 5 years or even more.
You cant reach perfection, but you can finde happiness. I found it here, and you as well, in my opinion :)

If you will try to ajust to grey mass, it will be just for a while, until grey mass will change their likes and disslikes.

I'm simply addressing the concern of the OP, a dying user base and the use of donations. I offered what in my opinion was the best solution. I am happy with the state of the game and don't feel a huge need to improve it, but there isn't much that can be done to solve the OP's concerns