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I’m curious who the BB goat player is?

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327358.6 in reply to 327358.4
Date: 5/29/2025 10:26:45 AM
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Here's the boy in all his glory ahahah
Although one could argue that during China's domination in the 50s the real MVP of those teams was Zheng Xiaozhuo (44026426) who was consistently China's top scorer in those seasons. His Palmares is slightly better in terms of National Titles, Cups and MVPs won, but he lacks the B3 trophies having just 1 to his name.

Here's Mr Xiaozhuo:
(https://www.buzzerbeater.com/player/44026426/hofplayer.asp...)

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Date: 5/29/2025 10:35:25 AM
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It would be fun to create a GOAT INDEX or something like that to see who's the most accomplished BB player ever.
Foe example these could be the parameters:

International Competitions

World Cup (NT / U21)
🥇 Gold: 10,000 pts
🥈 Silver: 7,000 pts
🥉 Bronze: 5,000 pts

European Championship
🥇 Gold: 7,000 pts
🥈 Silver: 5,000 pts
🥉 Bronze: 3,500 pts

American / Asian Championship
🥇 Gold: 5,000 pts
🥈 Silver: 3,500 pts
🥉 Bronze: 2,000 pts

African Championship
🥇 Gold: 2000 pts
🥈 Silver: 1,000 pts
🥉 Bronze: 500 pts

Club Level

BuzzerBeater Basketball Best (B3)
🏆 Winner: 10,000 pts
🥈 Finalist: 7,000 pts
🥉 Semi-Finalist: 5,000 pts
Quarters: 3,000 pts

Top Tier
Champion: 2,500 pts
Finalist: 1,500 pts
MVP: 500 pts

II Division
Champion: 700 pts
MVP: 150 pts

III Division
Champion: 300 pts
MVP: 100 pts

IV Division or lower
Champion: 100 pts
MVP: 50 pts

National Cup
Winner: 1,000 pts
Finalist: 700 pts

EXTRAS

100+ NT caps : +1,000 pts
5 MVP in top tier: +1,500 pts
3 consecutive B3 participations : +1,000 pts
All-time Leader for the NT in a category : +1,000 pts

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Date: 5/29/2025 10:41:35 AM
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Using these parameters Nan Dinghui's GOAT INDEX would be: 95'500
Meanwhile Zheng Xiaozhuo's GOAT INDEX would end up being: 89'550

So yeah Nan Dinghui is currently our goat ahah
Now, let the search for the most accomplished player on BB begin

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Date: 5/29/2025 4:36:02 PM
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Check this one... (47886646)

+100 NT games!

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Date: 5/29/2025 5:04:34 PM
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Oh i know good old Amill, he grew up with one of my boys (Palmieri)
Skill wise he's beautiful but achievement wise he's not amazing cause Shohoku CB never won much
Amill's international career is definitely remarkable but his GOAT INDEX is just 46'600 (of which 40'500 are thanks to his NT achievements)

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Date: 5/30/2025 2:19:36 AM
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1st Player to reach +170 STH in the BB game 99,99% secure.

Amil is special he have 129 STH at 21 and stomp U21 and NT

In my team is to be difficult to pay 292.000$ of salary if i don't have a lot of money in the bank is for this reason that amil can't play in a big teams to play B3 finals or something. Bad economy for me.

My intention was do the best Spanish player in the history in his position.

He's training with all the staff full max (Palmieri the same) and at the age of 28 the player is do it.

https://imgur.com/a/9ispHXj

Enjoy

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Date: 5/30/2025 5:17:10 AM
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Oh don't get me wrong, Amill is definitely among the best players to ever live, there's no doubt about that
And his international career is amazing
And I understand completely that it ain't easy to have a 300k player on your team, especially in a competitive league like the ACB.

However for the GOAT debate I think you don't need just the skills but you need the accolades too and unfortunately (for good reasons too) Amill never won much

It's a bit like the BOAT vs GOAT debate
BOAT = Best Of All Time
GOAT = Greatest Of All Time

Is Amill the BOAT? Maybe
Is he the GOAT? Mmh.. i personally don't think so

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Date: 5/30/2025 7:38:08 AM
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The only problem with Amill is his manager Of course I'm joking...

Anyway I thought about your ranking and imo that's not the way to determine who the GOAT is. I mean, of course trophies are a huge part in the conversation, but does that mean 5k salary players in B3 champs teams, are better than Amill, for example? Because there are a lot of players with enormous accolades with TSP60 or lower

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Date: 5/30/2025 8:32:45 AM
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Ahahah unfortunately yes
BB versions of Robert Horry would be massively rewarded by this system

But that doesn't mean they're better cause has i previously mentioned it's not the Boat-debate, but the Goat-debate and I would argue that accolades are a massively important part in the second one and almost irrelevant in the first one.

With that being said you could multiply the GOAT INDEX by a "Skill Factor"... for example TSP / 100
So in Amill case you'd have:
46'600 x ( 171 / 100 ) = 79'686
This would limit cases of bad players with a lot of trophies being high on the list

(2284837), for example.. won 4 B3 (s6, s7, s8, s9), like 11 titles (9 top tier and 2 low division ones) and 7 cups, yet he has no appearance for the Spanish NT.
His GOAT INDEX score is 83'600
If we adjust it by "Skill factor", assuming he was what? a 90tsp? That would make his adjusted score 75'240.. hence less than Amill

But realistically the GOAT has both Club level and NT level accolades that I don't think a random bench player can reach

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Date: 6/1/2025 11:11:57 AM
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Ahahahah daaam ahah

He's like the Jack Taylor of BB 😂
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Taylor_(basketball))

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