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From: chihorn

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Date: 7/10/2008 12:25:54 PM
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I have to say this is sounded like such a common sense idea at first, but in reality, the arenas that are the hardest for opposing players to play in are not really the biggest. They're just the areans with the worst acoustical designs (like the old Chicago Stadium, or Cowboys' arena in Stillwater, OK), and where there' a rich (I mean wild and rambunctious) basketball tradition. For football, where games are outdoors and acoustics aren't near a factor, I could see this, though even then stadium design and culture (or lack thereof) are influences. Why is it so hard to play against U of Arizona? Why is Arrowhead such a tough venue?

All that being said, I would agree that does take a critical mass of people to get a place rocking. But I think how close a team is to selling out is more a factor than the arena capacity. The Alamo Dome that's only half-full is not as intimidating as the local high school gym with packed bleachers.

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Date: 7/10/2008 12:52:22 PM
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I think there are a lot of factors that make a arena hard to play in...if the fans are really close to the floor, if the arena is designed a certain way, the type of fans a team gets etc. Seems like those would all be hard to gauge in a game like BuzzerBeater...that's why I suggested something simple like size.

However, seems like the sentiments is that linking Home Court Adv. to something like this would only benefit the "big" teams. So maybe its a no go...

>Why is it so hard to play against U of Arizona?

It is? Maybe it used to be...


Steve

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Date: 7/10/2008 1:04:16 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0rMe2Vyb9E

this video is genious, i think pana could be happy to play in ront of such fans, but the arena is just half full if you look at the background :)

In german we would say if you look this video your hair stands

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38542.9 in reply to 38542.8
Date: 7/10/2008 2:18:24 PM
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if this suggestion ever makes the list of implemented stuff, I sure hope they have cupfinals on neutral ground.
It is already killing to have to play a final at some other teams homecourt, if they get an advantage due to their fans as well the game doesn't need to be played anymore...

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38542.10 in reply to 38542.7
Date: 7/10/2008 3:05:00 PM
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How about this formula:

Adjusted_attendance (noise level):

Sum (section_attendance * bleacher_price/section_price)

So bleachers count 100%. If the lower tier tickets are 3X the bleacher tickets, then fans in those seats count 1/3.

Arena_volume:

Arena_capacity + 1000.

The 1000 represents the area taken up by the court.

Relative_intensity:

Adjusted_attendance / Arena_Volume

Intimidation_factor:

Max (0, Relative_intensity - Threshhold_intensity)

The threshold intensity might be around 75%.

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38542.11 in reply to 38542.9
Date: 7/10/2008 3:15:49 PM
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I believe the Cup semis and finals are already to be played on a neutral court.

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38542.12 in reply to 38542.11
Date: 7/10/2008 3:27:46 PM
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nope.
Played in the Black Hell today. Luckely we are the Bringers of Doom, and we like Hells so I could take home the cup, but I can guarantee you lost another couple years of my life. It is always anoying if a team with very weak outside offense starts hitting 3's against your good outside def, and your magnificent FT shooters suddenly seem to be able to miss their shots in the last 30 seconds. Fortunatly they kept their cool and hit enough FTs to keep the score level.

Anyway: in Belgium Cup final is at the hometeams' court... as was the semis, as was the quarters.

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38542.13 in reply to 38542.12
Date: 7/10/2008 4:15:54 PM
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Odd.

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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38542.14 in reply to 38542.10
Date: 7/10/2008 4:19:50 PM
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No sure I understand why different sections are counted differently.

Anyway, sounded like this idea was kind of DOA.


Steve

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38542.15 in reply to 38542.14
Date: 7/10/2008 5:35:30 PM
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No sure I understand why different sections are counted differently.

The fans in the luxury boxes are probably at the bar in the back doing business. They hear a loud commotion, and look out towards the court, "could someone close the glass, so we can talk" The people courtside are to there to be seen, not heard. Nicholson's not scary without the makeup. The fans in the lower tier are a little too comfy and polite.


From: Shoei

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38542.16 in reply to 38542.15
Date: 7/10/2008 9:30:03 PM
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if this got implemented

i wanna see fans throwing drinks to the refs! hahaha

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