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75076.7 in reply to 75076.6
Date: 2/25/2009 9:40:43 AM
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Thank you sa mabilis na pagsagot.

I agree with JSmoove na ang U21 coach natin should set up the team for the future. A good U21 campaign will take 3-4 seasons in time for the 18 year olds to be 21. That's my first point, setting the expectations. Ang magiging U21 coach ay hindi ang coach na mag-aani ng kanyang tinanim (maliban na lang kung mananalo ulet).

On the other hand, malaking tulong ang previous experience ni Katcha kasi tulad ng sabi ni Aldo, it's easier said than done. What I mean is maraming magandang ideas si JSmoove na malabo mangyari. Mga nasubukan na dati at hindi gumana. Hindi ibig sabihin na kalimutan na dahil malay natin gumana kay JSmoove pero dito papasok ang NT experience ni Katcha siguro. Mahirap magsabi kung anung tactic ang dapat ilaro kasi kaya palagi LI ang strategy natin kasi kulang naman talaga ng guards ang U21. Matagal nang nakalagay sa forums na mas kailangan natin ng guards sa team.

Aldo:

This thread is for debating. Anybody may post here as many times as they would like, but keep away from personal attacks.


Peace!

Asan na yung ibang mga candidates?

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75076.8 in reply to 75076.6
Date: 2/25/2009 9:42:11 AM
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edited some parts that added fuel to the fire.

I admit that my NT run is somewhat disastrous and that is because of the lack of preparations at beginner's mistakes... most assume that being an NT/U21 coach is the same as being the coach of the club team... well, it's not. It's a lot of hard work and being an NT/U21 coach is not all about the coach, but it's all about the country and it's community.

if you look through US, Germany, and Italy threads, they have a very solid community and they all take part in making the NT and U21 one of the best teams in Buzzerbeater. The Philippines NT during my tenure is composed by me, and two other scouts Norman Black and Devastator, who managed to use a lot of time to scout the whole BB Philippines leagues... If it isn't for the scouts, we wouldn't even have any idea about Garvez and Gabunas... the top two highest paid Filipino Players today and primarily the core of our NT.

We had a big development during my tenure as NT coach, but it was too late, as time is of the essence... that's why it's better to have a chance now as the community is more active (imagine... there are at least 20-25 managers posting at the thread now than 5-8 managers posting 1 season ago... and also, Gus has been more active now in the forums than before...^_^).

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75076.9 in reply to 75076.7
Date: 2/25/2009 9:51:01 AM
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Hey, I had Mario Cane before sa NT. :p

Before sa Hattrick, Philippines qualified despite having a 200 user base. The manager did this by encouraging a group of people who will trained their players talaga. Pinongan, Mabaquiao and Madrid are examples of players who were trained for a few seasons and should be the core of the NT. If we can somehow find atleast 10 managers who can train their draftees for 2-3 seasons, then we will be in good shape.

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75076.10 in reply to 75076.7
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Asan na yung ibang mga candidates?


baka ala-Eddie Gil sila... ewan...

heheh

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75076.11 in reply to 75076.9
Date: 2/25/2009 10:05:46 AM
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Yun ang pinakamalaking problema. Pasensya na kung pessimistic ang dating pero sa tingin ko ay halos imposible pagsabayin ang fulltime training for NT at success sa iyong liga.

Ito na ang 3rd season ko of training Pinongan and Mabaquiao together at palaging 1 position training lang (except JS) para mabilis at maximized ang training. At dahil dito, salitan sila palagi hindi nagsasabay. This season susubukan kong isabay yung draftee ko na 18 yr old. Plano ko ay walang substitution. 1 trainee per game para tig-48 mins sila. At dahil dito, never kong natrain ang iba kong mga players kaya nahihirapan ako sa playoffs kasi may 2 akong NT-level na players pero walang tulong sa iba.

Kailangan natin makahanap ng matitinong mga trainees at dapat ay willing ang mga managers nila na magsakripisyo. Sana mali ako sa pagiging pessimistic at maging supportive ang ating mga managers.

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75076.12 in reply to 75076.2
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Hello.!!

1. Should having an NT player on your team be a requirement or at least a big factor to be an NT coach?

*That's not a requirement or even a big factor to be a coach,...cuz the skill and knowledge of playing basketball of the coach is the big factor and what our country needs.

2. What should be the number one role of the U21 coach?

*Acquire best players in our country,,Monitor(watch) every matches to know the limitations of the players and what kind of strategy to be played according to the players comfort and their scoring zones..train them in their weak points..study about opponents game play..(i usually watch my matches in my league II.I)

3. Can we win the next U21 Worlds? If not, what is the best finish we can expect and why?

*Yes we can!, as long as we have support and send their best and talented player to our U21 roster.

*(IF NOT) last season our country stands at 52 with 2 Wins and 6 Losses switching these numbers would be great (6W & 2L) or even better. It only depends on the players,..so send the best players and my coaching would also be a part of it.

4. Will you help the U21 if you lose? How? (Please don't say it depends on what the U21 coach says

*Yes, i can do reviews of a particular match to improve their weakness..Also a review of the opponent strategies before games..An maybe suggests what the team needs..support..

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75076.13 in reply to 75076.12
Date: 2/25/2009 10:23:25 AM
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Thank you cheri! I will wait for your Campaign Speech.

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75076.14 in reply to 75076.12
Date: 2/25/2009 10:42:08 AM
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Cheri we need details on how you will run the U21. di pwede yung yes we can! :p

Katcha - Ikaw ang kalaban ko sa Yahoo BB Fantasy League this week. Gusto ko sana manalo ng at least 6-3. hint hint.. joke!

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75076.15 in reply to 75076.13
Date: 2/25/2009 10:45:56 AM
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SABIT LNG AKO

base lang to on my observation every game..

LOOK INSIDE
*from C to PF ang most attempts which is usually 2's
*i considered this kind of strategy as PLAY-SAFE takot mag miss nang long J's
*attempts from
C
PF
SF
SG
PG

RUN AND GUN
*if you have good outside shooters more opportunity of making points make sure you have good posts for rebounds.
*taking risks
*attempts from
SG
SF
PG
PF
C

that's all.

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75076.16 in reply to 75076.15
Date: 2/25/2009 10:48:55 AM
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dude all filipino ka pala. at least madadalian ka na maghanap sa TL ng pinoy.

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