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79565.6 in reply to 79565.1
Date: 3/6/2009 1:06:32 PM
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i've been training outside defense, with a level 5 coach and always 2 positions, on my 2 guards for 5 weeks and non of them had a pop. one has prolific and the other sensational in the outside defense skill and both have 23 years old. their potential is all-star...is this normal??


I'm just curious - what are the rest of the guard skills for your player? If they are lower than the outside d skill, they could be slowing your pressure training down.

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79565.8 in reply to 79565.6
Date: 3/6/2009 1:56:36 PM
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here are my players:

Jump Shot: tremendous Jump Range: sensational
Outside Def.: sensational Handling: sensational
Driving: prominent Passing: average
Inside Shot: respectable Inside Def.: awful
Rebounding: mediocre Shot Blocking: awful
Stamina: average Free Throw: atrocious

Jump Shot: marvelous Jump Range: tremendous
Outside Def.: prolific Handling: strong
Driving: prominent Passing: respectable
Inside Shot: awful Inside Def.: respectable
Rebounding: awful Shot Blocking: inept
Stamina: average Free Throw: mediocre

so, what do you think?

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79565.9 in reply to 79565.8
Date: 3/6/2009 2:40:12 PM
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I note that you have ignored passing training for both of them. I'm sure that is having a bit of an influence.

Anyhow, my 20 year olds sometimes took 4 weeks to train OD. So 5 weeks is not unheard of.

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Date: 3/6/2009 2:46:38 PM
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So that's nothing to do with their potential?

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Date: 3/6/2009 2:51:50 PM
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So that's nothing to do with their potential?


It could be - I don't really know too much about the caps based on potential. However, given their age, 5 weeks would not be out of the ordinary for training pressure.

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Date: 3/6/2009 2:56:42 PM
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ok, i hope this week they finally pop

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Date: 3/6/2009 3:08:49 PM
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Passing is not a secondary training for any skill - it should not slow down outside defense training. Handling or Driving could, but I'm not sure how much in case of the two mentioned players as they have only one of those skills lower than outside defense and not that terribly.

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Date: 3/6/2009 3:09:43 PM
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Passing is not a secondary training for any skill - it should not slow down outside defense training. Handling or Driving could, but I'm not sure how much in case of the two mentioned players as they have only one of those skills lower than outside defense and not that terribly.


Low passing will slow down any outside-based skill.

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Date: 3/6/2009 3:23:26 PM
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Is there a source, thread, BB saying (not that I would saying you are wrong, just wanting to know more)?

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Date: 3/6/2009 3:31:47 PM
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That's a general concept, I guess you could say the rules cover it:

For the other training types, players will improve more quickly not only with additional playing time, but also a more skilled player will improve more quickly. For example, a great inside defender and rebounder will find it easier to improve his shot blocking than a poor inside defender and poor rebounder would. This encourages you to develop players with a combination of skills, but there are many combinations of skills which work well together -- you can develop players who will be a good fit for your team's needs.


Yes, that is pretty vague, but the impression I get is that all outside skills relate to each other for training purposes, and the same for inside skills.

Charles has a very busy weekend in front of him, otherwise I'd ask him to comment here.

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