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sorry, my post IS confusing. ;)

let me try to set it right.

I am not saying that the lower the jumpshot on your guys is, the better they get at Princeton. Ofcourse this is not true, the better in somethin, the better for anything, BUT

if they have better jumpshot then the other skills I talked about, they will benefit more from the other tactics.

let me give an example:

your team has:

JS: 4
DR: 7
IS: 8
JR: 9

in my theory, princeton would be a good option. (your jumpshot is the weakest, so you must try to avoid midrange jumpers).
For 3 point shots I think the range weighs much heavier then the jumpshotskill. Theoretically they take the jumpshotskill and then lower it if the jumprange skill gets lower, but in reality this doesn't show in my team, which might ofcourse be coincidence. But this gives me the feeling they use jumprange just as any other skill in the calculations rather then adjusting the jumpshotskill with it... Just my impression.

now, raise JS to 7 or 8, and your princeton offensive would even be better, BUT a neutral offensive will probably be the better choice here, because with a neutral offense your players will try to take the best shot available, and your skills are well rounded, so you need to keep all options open.

if you raise the JS to 10 or 11, your princeton offense would be better still, but the best choice would possibly be motion, since it favours jump shots, and that is where your strength is...

Hope it is a little more clear here.

JS is NOT bad for princeton, it is just that if you have high jumpshot, the other offenses would be more profitable.

This is how I see it...

thank you very much for your clarification, it definitely helps me understand more of what is needed for running a successful Princeton.

On the other hand, it brings up another question: Jump Range.

Now, when I hear Jump Range, it makes me think of how far or high a player can jump. Someone with colossal JR, in my opinion, would be someone who should be in the olympics doing the long jump. It doesn't necessarily make sense in terms of basketball, at least not with that naming. The only way that I see 'jump range' as helping out is if you've got a player like Jordan who can jump to the rim from a long distance. The problem with that is that it turns into a driving related skill and not a shooting skill.

This is what I am wondering: is JR really trying to cover the idea of how far away from the basket a player can shoot from? This would make sense to me, especially if it is used in taking three point shots. So, in my mind, someone with high jump range has the power needed to get the ball to the basket, and high jump shot ability would mean that they have the accuracy needed to put the ball into the basket.

If this is what jump range actually is trying to get at, could it be renamed to 'shot range'? IMHO, this would make more sense...

On the other hand, it brings up another question: Jump Range.

Now, when I hear Jump Range, it makes me think of how far or high a player can jump.

Wrong idea.Jump range is distance that one player could make a 3 point basket, not the high that it nedds to jump to make a 3 point basket.

For example in NBA, walter scherbiak from cleveland is a terrific 3 point shotter and he make 3 point basket without jump(with him feets on the ground)

shot range would have been better, but it was called jump range, so I guess it will stay that way.

It's effect is stated clearly in the rules, so instead of risking a wrong wording, I'll refer to there. ;)

On the other hand, it brings up another question: Jump Range.

Now, when I hear Jump Range, it makes me think of how far or high a player can jump. Someone with colossal JR, in my opinion, would be someone who should be in the olympics doing the long jump. It doesn't necessarily make sense in terms of basketball, at least not with that naming. The only way that I see 'jump range' as helping out is if you've got a player like Jordan who can jump to the rim from a long distance. The problem with that is that it turns into a driving related skill and not a shooting skill.

This is what I am wondering: is JR really trying to cover the idea of how far away from the basket a player can shoot from? This would make sense to me, especially if it is used in taking three point shots. So, in my mind, someone with high jump range has the power needed to get the ball to the basket, and high jump shot ability would mean that they have the accuracy needed to put the ball into the basket.

If this is what jump range actually is trying to get at, could it be renamed to 'shot range'? IMHO, this would make more sense...

This has been debated before in other posts. Jump Range is an inaccurate term, it should be called jump shot range. A jump shot is not about jumping, its about shooting. If you have a good jump shot, it doesnt mean you jump higher, it means you sink more jumpers (even if you remain flatfooted for a shot, it can still be a jump shot). Jump Range has to do only with the range of your jump shot, and nothing to do with actually jumping. Jump shot range or perhaps outside accuracy would be better terms for clarity.

maybe we can petition the BBs to make that adjustment so that it's easier to understand. Hopefully it won't be that hard to do or have that huge an impact on the game.

Then again, who knows? Maybe it would bring the game grinding to a halt... :P