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97029.6 in reply to 97029.3
Date: 6/15/2009 12:47:02 PM
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You train specific players to specific skills that fits with there position. No reason for example to train 7'3 C OD. Team training u r using only for FT and stamina. If you train 1 skill all the team, the result will be so poor...


Why wouldnt you train OD on a Center? (this is a serious q.) I appreciate it might not contribute so much to the team ratings but against teams running an outside offence i think this is a very useful skill.

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97029.7 in reply to 97029.6
Date: 6/15/2009 12:49:16 PM
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It is useful, but doesn't it take a long time to pop?

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97029.8 in reply to 97029.6
Date: 6/15/2009 12:52:32 PM
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You train specific players to specific skills that fits with there position. No reason for example to train 7'3 C OD. Team training u r using only for FT and stamina. If you train 1 skill all the team, the result will be so poor...

Do NOT listen to Johnny. He is absolutely wrong. With a 7'3" C, OD is a great thing to train because it allows you to be able to run a strong outside defense. If you're running FCP or 1-3-1, wouldn't you want your C to be able to play OD strongly? There is not a good reason to NOT train your C in OD.

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97029.9 in reply to 97029.7
Date: 6/15/2009 1:04:16 PM
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It is useful, but doesn't it take a long time to pop?

Just as long as it would take to train him in JS or JR with the rest of the team.

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97029.10 in reply to 97029.9
Date: 6/15/2009 1:15:27 PM
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OD takes longer to pop than JS.

Especially when OD is a lot more height dependent than JS.

Last edited by Asasasa at 6/15/2009 1:15:48 PM

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97029.11 in reply to 97029.8
Date: 6/15/2009 1:16:25 PM
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That's absolutely wrong actually. There's no reason to waste training on a C, especially one that it that large. It will take forever and it's a waste of training. It's not even needed.

As for jump range, it's only useful if you play perimeter and you want a guy who's good from 3 point range.

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97029.12 in reply to 97029.11
Date: 6/15/2009 1:19:44 PM
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Well its not proven either way which is the beauty of training.

Yes its slow and whether it justifies the time is the question.

1 thing is for sure is that it does fetch a premium on the transfer market. That can be said of a lot of the more difficult training regimes.

I wouldnt be so quick to dismiss the possibility if not for your own teams tactics but for others.

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97029.13 in reply to 97029.12
Date: 6/16/2009 12:50:01 AM
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Every skill is useful. I am not denying that, but some skills are much more useful for a certain positions. Why waste your training for a team training that is painful slow, and not focus to develop fast the young/good potential players that you (maybe) have? Even on zone tactics for example that u r guarding space the big men staying inside, they are not hunting guards outside. You can have valid point if we talking for PF's, as my PF has promiment IS and same on JS, but i rather 1 pop up more on rebounding for example than on OD.

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97029.14 in reply to 97029.13
Date: 6/16/2009 1:32:55 AM
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youve just hit the nail on the head.

search the market for a decent centre and you can pick up someone with low handling/driving/od and js for very cheap.

search again with od/js and all of a sudden you see a price rise.. the time training will add value to you if you then convert your star centre to PF then repeat with a new Centre OR if you decide to cash in.

i might have misunderstood the thread if the topic is about team training... i certainly wouldnt recommend this unless you are faced with a 2 game week. but OD for a PF is very nice and if you can pick up a decent centre with respectable OD i think the time it takes to get to strong better still proficient will give as good a return as using that time on a more traditional guard type player.

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97029.15 in reply to 97029.14
Date: 6/16/2009 3:06:51 AM
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I never said that the 2ndary skills are not important, but are 2ndary. When your big man has 12/12/12 on IS/R/ID, then for sure you can train JS or what else you like. Being big men trainer JS is on my plans, but after this season.

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97029.16 in reply to 97029.15
Date: 6/16/2009 10:27:25 AM
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I never said that the 2ndary skills are not important, but are 2ndary. When your big man has 12/12/12 on IS/R/ID, then for sure you can train JS or what else you like. Being big men trainer JS is on my plans, but after this season.


but sometimes it wasn't bad to train the secondaries earlier, if you have the possibility ;)

Currently i am training a german National PF/C in OD, because he needs it and it sucks a little because i have to keep a eye on his game shape, too. So i play him one game as backup on his natural position and a full game out of position.
to train him inside skills isn't a good idea, because they will stop his progress.

Before i got him, i always train out of position, when i got the chanche to do it. And making rebounds/inside defence for my guards, in season break, or when i have games without a winning chanche.

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