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step by step buzzerbeater becomes silly game how I can developer if I cant buy a normal player? I have much money but I cant buy normal player!

In order to better understand you, can you tell us what you mean exactly by "normal" (use a range of salary and position, age that you are looking) and by "much money" (give us an estimate and an approx of your tipical week income). It will be easier to understand if there is really hard for a small team to develop or if you are experiencing some difficulties like everybody else did and does.

Somewhere I think I have read one of the BB's say that they strive to keep a constant amount of money in the game relative to the amount of teams, correct me if I am wrong. This means all other things being equal that one player in the equilibrium will cost the same. I know we are not in the equilibrium yet but when we are there, there should not be inflation or too many fluctuations in the player prices. Right know there may have been an extra cashflow due to the arena demolition proces or people have been saving money. But people should not complain that the prices are to high. You can just wait for prices to fall or sell you players to take advantage of the high prices.

You can just wait for prices to fall or sell you players to take advantage of the high prices.

It's a lottery for those who sell players in order to wait for price fall. Nobody knows when prices will go down or even if prices will go down at all.

but what is of most importance here?

training successfully / managing minutes / winning matches OR predicting the value of players in 12 months from now?

dont get me wrong I like to see movement in player prices and hope that 6/10 or more I can forecast it correctly in order to capitalize from it....

just cant help feeling the markets are a bit like musical chairs at the moment with anyone that cant buy who they want saving and saving and you just know there are going to be some managers splashing out top dollar in the not too distant future and then BOOM.. a BB news announcement which will loosely translate to 'player prices will be coming down again'

its quite scary/exciting to calculate that your players could be increasing in value quite dramatically with or without training and also with the early percentage sell on always inching closer to the 97% base.

with lots of teams making $200k + a week now I think we could still be at the beginning of this current inflationary trend - next fun part will be 'when the music stops' how many of us will go rushing out to dump 2-3 of our current roster and then wait to buy back again cheaper after the dust settles :D

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just cant help feeling the markets are a bit like musical chairs at the moment with anyone that cant buy who they want saving and saving and you just know there are going to be some managers splashing out top dollar in the not too distant future and then BOOM.. a BB news announcement which will loosely translate to 'player prices will be coming down again'

An announcement in this direction is the one about the return of free agents... that should increase the supply of players in the market (I think especially low and average value players... too bad I just spent my money on that kind of player...). So I guess you were definitely right, a not too distant future: right now.

Last edited by giona at 10/4/2009 4:52:37 AM

still i cant see there are enough of free agents to make an impact on the market which is not bad at all. the market should adjust itself, i think it is way too early to make major adjustments at the moment.

A view from the bottom,
Seeing that most of this thread content is from managers that have high level teams I felt I should post the view from a IV league manager. I started midway last season and managed to win the league against mostly bot teams. Learning the game from week to week and making lots of mistakes. I really like the game and spend most of the time perusing the TL as that is my typical modus operandi. As all of you I noticed that the prices took a huge jump from last season and find it nearly impossible to find players that are at all decent that I can afford. Unlike many of you who have more than 200,000 dollars in profit, I can make maybe 40,000 a week. This, of course, means I can not afford very much ( I have saved approximately 500,000) and am barely competitive in my league. I have resorted to "throwing" games in the hope that I can stay at level IV while I train my prospects to decent levels. The problem I have seen in the NEWS section is that many of my competitors have been able to sell players for over 1.4 million dollars (crappy ones) and purchase players for that or higher levels. This causes an imbalance in the league and makes it very unlikely that no matter how much I "manage" my team if another team can purchase their way to the top, I will have no way of winning. I have no illusion that BB is a short term win but it is very difficult for me to get my mind around the idea that I will very likely never have a chance to succeed given the current economic climate. That being said I really love the game and the great work put into it.

you cant be so pessimistic about it. most of us has been in the same situation and as long as you keep doing the right moves, your team will improve. changes on the market will help some of your rivals but it will hurt others as well. so just work on your team, train efficiently, sell at right price and that's all you can control. it is not easy to level up each year, even when you can it might not be the best thing.

we will see how many free agents will be put on the market but i believe the effect will be psychological rather than being on an economical basis.

The problem I have seen in the NEWS section is that many of my competitors have been able to sell players for over 1.4 million dollars (crappy ones) and purchase players for that or higher levels.

Apparently, they're either not selling players that are this crappy, or not buying players that are this good, because the two can't work at the same time.

This causes an imbalance in the league and makes it very unlikely that no matter how much I "manage" my team if another team can purchase their way to the top, I will have no way of winning.

Purchasing the right players is quite clearly part of managing your team, so I don't see how you can manage without going on the transfer market.

Either way, you're supposed to raise money by training and selling players, not from your weekly profit. So if you can't do this, there's something you're not doing quite right.

Thanks LA,
After writing the first post I took the time to look at the other teams in the league in finer detail. It seems all but one has "paid their dues" by being in the game a number of years, so it makes sense they would have the money and the high priced players. Also they have been relegated out of III back to IV so it makes sense they should have more resources this time around. I need to be more patient and smarter and reading great threads like this one help me immensely. Thanks again.

we will see how many free agents will be put on the market but i believe the effect will be psychological rather than being on an economical basis.

Well, so it's a useless change? Don't you think that (crowd) psychology has a __real__ impact in a system that by the way is not that big? Last week some people were so confused that they did not move on the market, because they were not confident at all in any prediction. Players were sold at high prizes, but if you sell to improve your team, after a sale you want to buy. Then you have to face the fact that some players were extremely scarce on the market and expensive... so scarce that even one-two additional players of that level per week could change things.