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132700.60 in reply to 132700.13
Date: 3/10/2010 6:18:57 PM
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what is the best tactics against a push the ball and full court press

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Date: 3/10/2010 6:37:34 PM
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wrong thred, dude!

anyway, hard to find an answer. ptb has no focus. just take a look were the strenght of your apponent is. if he's stronger inside maybe chose a 2-3, if he is stronger outside maybe chose 3-2. even m2m could work very well.
vs pressing there isnt really THE good tactic. try to get players with good passing and handling on the court and hope for good. pressing weekens his inside d and rebounding a lot, maybe lowpost or look inside work better than other tactics, cause u have a better chance for the offensiveboard, but i dont know

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132700.62 in reply to 132700.47
Date: 3/13/2010 6:11:00 PM
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you are 100% correct

great idea to find a good sf a 20 year old who has been trained well but is the wrong height for his current position

it will be a long term project and this guy will probably only be scrimmaging for you for a long time but in the end you could have someone sensational for a bargain price

i had a guy like this Ariel Feldman (12207134) Small Forward 6'10' with developing guard skills and already solid inside and outside defence but i gave up on the project as too slow for me (but I did make $300,000 profit selling him :) )

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Date: 3/17/2010 9:41:39 AM
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Is this fine I have a 24 yr old SF that both inside and outside defense are average and also gets incredible shot blocks but one of the players that make a lot of turnovers in my country (10229495)

And I have this SF that i am going to make a PG has weak inside defense but other things are pretty much OK (11010729)

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132700.64 in reply to 132700.10
Date: 3/24/2010 9:15:32 AM
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I think the PF is the hardest position to train too.

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132700.65 in reply to 132700.64
Date: 3/25/2010 1:21:43 AM
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PF is just really good Inside skills with some JS and OD. A 'real' SF needs training in all postions not just Inside skills and some guard skills.

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Date: 3/25/2010 6:25:54 AM
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you are 100% correct

great idea to find a good sf a 20 year old who has been trained well but is the wrong height for his current position

it will be a long term project and this guy will probably only be scrimmaging for you for a long time but in the end you could have someone sensational for a bargain price

i had a guy like this Ariel Feldman (12207134) Small Forward 6'10' with developing guard skills and already solid inside and outside defence but i gave up on the project as too slow for me (but I did make $300,000 profit selling him :) )


My last and current 2 trainees are a 6'7 big man with amazing outside skills and med/ave/resp ID/IS/RB which I hope to improve to Proficients minimum and a 6'6 guy who had great ID/IS and HD considering his age/height.

I agree with sentence 1. Find yourself a 6'10 PG that has outside skills or a 6'4 guy who is triple prominent in the inside skills and devote 2-3 seasons on the skills he is missing - to add to the sentence, pay for someone else to train up the hardest skills and pay more if they have been patient enough to do this on difficult heights.

I think it was Josef that said why does JBM train 3 SF's?
1) Because he can :D
2) Because the finished players have to be the most valuable when you want to sell on.
3) Because you would hope when finished you could play a PG a Center and your 3 super SF's and vary the tactics enough to really be a force to be reckoned with.


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Date: 3/25/2010 8:41:26 AM
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PF is just really good Inside skills with some JS and OD. A 'real' SF needs training in all postions not just Inside skills and some guard skills.


NO, i don't think that. Do you know Milos Leković? This is a 'real' (how you say) PF. What's the problem, buy the player which is 18 yo, good, initial skills and to train all skills him to, for example 11-12 lvl. Manager must remember about buying good coach.

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Date: 3/31/2010 11:28:35 AM
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then I run a 3-2 to compensate for the poor OD of the SF defense unless the other team has really 2 really great post players.


This is actually the worst thing you can do if the SF has no outside d. It means the SF will defend the perimeter the majority of the time. So about 2/3 of the time he will guard my best playmaker or my best outside shooter. A recipe for disaster.

If I was going up against your team and I knew you were going to do this, I would run a run and gun or motion and watch you get smoked on the perimeter.

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Date: 3/31/2010 11:36:58 AM
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Anyway, yeah, I think my experience is that throwing in the towel at serious SF training at the higher levels, if you are in a country with lots of divisions, is probably the smart thing to do.


Kind of weird that there are at least two serious SF trainers in Canada's division I.

I personally think differently than you. It can be a pretty good way to get to the top, as you can use your huge training profits to buy the other pieces to the puzzle. And if done right, you can pick up the matching pieces at other positions but no one can match you at SF (unless they also trained SFs or saved up a lot of cash to buy one).

Not to mention that if you train your SFs properly, you can keep their salaries very low until they are ready for primetime.

Run of the Mill Canadian Manager
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Date: 4/4/2010 2:00:40 PM
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So what should one do?I guess not play a 2-3 zone...
I am facing a team that scores great from outside but my SF has OD at 7 (not good for my league) shouldn't i play a 3-2 or even 1-3-1 zone?If no what should i do?(apart from getting a better SF)

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