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158188.60 in reply to 158188.59
Date: 10/11/2010 12:34:48 PM
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hmm....I'll try it and find out. I think it would only work if the opponent plays a man to man defence though. Playing a SG at Center wouldn't work against a zone.

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Date: 10/11/2010 12:35:59 PM
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hmm....I'll try it and find out. I think it would only work if the opponent plays a man to man defence though. Playing a SG at Center wouldn't work against a zone.

Agreed

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Date: 10/11/2010 12:42:44 PM
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The mere fact that he would be a threat from 3pt territory would give him an relative advantage inside.
Combine great jumpshot & range, with decent driving & inside scoring, this will "keep the defense honest".
The defending center will have to close down on the shooter, and with low outside defense, will not be quick enough to prevent the shooter from driving all the way to the hoop.
Just imagine a play where you isolate someone like Ray Allen on Shaq at the 3pt line. If help defense is poor (or if other 4 players are good outside threats), Allen would get an easy lay-up/2 free-throws/an assist every time.

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Date: 10/11/2010 12:48:44 PM
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That is why I think the first player is the better player. But I have no proof yet, so I'll try it out to confirm.

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Date: 10/11/2010 1:57:37 PM
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The mere fact that he would be a threat from 3pt territory would give him an relative advantage inside.
Combine great jumpshot & range, with decent driving & inside scoring, this will "keep the defense honest".
The defending center will have to close down on the shooter, and with low outside defense, will not be quick enough to prevent the shooter from driving all the way to the hoop.
Just imagine a play where you isolate someone like Ray Allen on Shaq at the 3pt line. If help defense is poor (or if other 4 players are good outside threats), Allen would get an easy lay-up/2 free-throws/an assist every time.

There are not physical skill in BB.BB's Ray Allen and BB's Shaq has the same speed.If the BB's Ray Allen try to get inside,he will be surely blocked by the BB's Shaq,no way he can score consistently playing inside

Last edited by Steve Karenn at 10/11/2010 2:02:56 PM

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Date: 10/11/2010 2:11:25 PM
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sometimes i think, that a relation from the salary to the transfer prices would solve the problem. Because in this case the "real" best players, would become the best paid players so a center wouldn't get a lower value just because you trained him additional 5 skills.

But when i look at the TPE, i believe the implementation would become to buggy and difficult.

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Date: 10/11/2010 2:29:43 PM
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There are not physical skill in BB.BB's Ray Allen and BB's Shaq has the same speed.If the BB's Ray Allen try to get inside,he will be surely blocked by the BB's Shaq,no way he can score consistently playing inside

I don't know, I think Driving is effective against poor OD, and I'm not sure how much ID affects Driving.

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Date: 10/11/2010 2:31:07 PM
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What kind of relation about the salary to the transfer prices?

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Date: 10/11/2010 2:36:01 PM
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What kind of relation about the salary to the transfer prices?


a type of player who is selled for a high price, get a high salary and a player who got selled cheap a low one - because transfer prices are the best indicator of demand in this game and demand is usually the key who is also considered for the salary negotiations.

In this scenario, you wouldn't pay less for a center, who have 10 additional insideskills, because he is more useful then the guy with 10 less skills ;)

But for this you need working tpe, so that players who get trained, get a updatet value from time to time.

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Date: 10/11/2010 2:47:03 PM
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There are not physical skill in BB.BB's Ray Allen and BB's Shaq has the same speed.If the BB's Ray Allen try to get inside,he will be surely blocked by the BB's Shaq,no way he can score consistently playing inside

I don't know, I think Driving is effective against poor OD, and I'm not sure how much ID affects Driving.

Driving is effective both on OD and ID,it's not intended as in the real game

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Date: 10/11/2010 2:54:11 PM
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Hmm, theoretically not, because such TPE you have defined already by current salary levels. Therefore I think that things can work as follows. Once you buy the player over the price, you will get him also over the current sallary.

Good for the information, but such a market needs the regulation anyway, doesnt sound to me really well that if you are lucky and get 500k center luckily because of serverdown or something like that for 100k p/w while the normall situation would be 250k. That would be a magnificent advantage for the team for a pretty long time.

So while you have defined TPE (you know that these skills were measured to 500k p/w), system can also search for all +-500k centers in the game and find the average sallary they are getting now. Lets say that would be 250k.

So that 150k advantage you have could be slowly erased by raising players demands. He could demand 2-5 percent wage more every week (depends on the salary value he have like on staff, better one gets faster raise).

It could work also in the opposite, so overpriced player would demand less every week.

The point is that its still driven by demand like you say, have the all advantages, but it has a safety mechanism against those managers with lot of time.

Last edited by aigidios at 10/11/2010 2:57:18 PM

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