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191983.60 in reply to 191983.58
Date: 7/28/2011 9:56:50 AM
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I will just say this. If the BBs do not develop this game for the user base, it will die. I saw it happen to another online game that I played - where the developers made changes that they thought were good for the game. On the surface, they sounded like good ideas. Heck, they may have been wonderful ideas. But people hated them and left the game en masse. In the end, people get tired of changing strategies and adapting and eventually quit.

Remember the principle that the customer is always right. As someone else mentioned, people do not like change. Personally I think that if the developers wants to make changes like this, that they should explain them better and try to get end user buy in before they implement them. But that is just me.

In any event, I am very interested to see how this unfolds.

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191983.61 in reply to 191983.59
Date: 7/28/2011 10:00:33 AM
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True. My point was that you can't have a team of self-trained players that has equal skills to a team where you train some, sell some, and buy some. Not one that can advance up the ladder anyway.

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191983.62 in reply to 191983.60
Date: 7/28/2011 10:11:04 AM
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I, too, am interested to see how it unfolds.

I love change. I loved when Nirvana unplugged, when phones went cordless, when I quit my job and went around the world, etc. I think people eventually quit online games. I haven't lasted as long at any other online thing as I have in BB. Some day I'm sure I won't have time or energy or desire for this either.
It's a broken record suggesting that the developers explain things any other way than cryptically. You just have to embrace it or not. I choose to embrace it. Doesn't mean you have to.


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191983.63 in reply to 191983.62
Date: 7/28/2011 10:34:44 AM
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I think people eventually quit online games.


Oh yeah. The key turing point is when more people start to quit than join, which from my user count is what is starting to happen. Will we see it get to the point, like the other game that I played, where they stop telling us how many users are playing? We'll see. ;-)

I still do not really understand the point of being cryptic. Well, maybe I see some pluses but in a case like this, I see a lot of minuses. I have never had such a negative reaction to any change in BB as I have had to this one. I'm not sure if they completely thought this one through. Or if they did, they certainly could have worked on getting user buy-in in advance.

But hey, you're right, I am not the developer. It is their game to sink or swim with.

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191983.64 in reply to 191983.63
Date: 7/28/2011 10:45:42 AM
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2775 people signed up in the last week. Last week users were 52000+ . Right now 53000+.

I hope it swims.

I don't have any idea how this training change will work out. Maybe good maybe bad. I just think it is silly for people to get so bent out of shape about something they haven't even experienced yet. I'm looking forward to it, but I don't take it as seriously as a lot of people who post on the forums, I guess. I don't make any long-term plans. I have relied on my negligible knowledge of real life hoop to succeed in a tiny country.

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191983.65 in reply to 191983.64
Date: 7/28/2011 10:56:38 AM
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2775 people signed up in the last week. Last week users were 52000+ . Right now 53000+.


We're stuck at these numbers for ages now, and some countries are dying out already.

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191983.66 in reply to 191983.58
Date: 7/28/2011 11:00:18 AM
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Minus 10% is minus 10%. That is not the same speed. You cannot replace for eg. decenfe by any other skill. Although the 10% you are talking about will be allocated to other skills, but the speed of training is not the same.

What I am talking about is the base, the number of teams that are ready to train players for the national teams, even for U21. That is not just Hungary's problem. If it is a much easier way to bulid a team by buying older players than training young ones the national teams will have a lower base just because there will be less teams that will train players.


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191983.67 in reply to 191983.65
Date: 7/28/2011 11:00:26 AM
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Holding steady says the optimist.

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191983.68 in reply to 191983.67
Date: 7/28/2011 11:15:08 AM
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Holding steady says the optimist.


Just to be the contrary one... This other game that I talked about - that's how the downturn started. About a year or so where the user numbers stayed pretty constant. Then a period of sharp decline. The developers kept saying more people would come, just let us make this or that additional tweak. But nope.

I'm not saying it is happening or will happen here. I don't have a crystal ball. I'm just saying, learn from history and don't repeat it. ;-)

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191983.69 in reply to 191983.65
Date: 7/28/2011 1:17:32 PM
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2775 people signed up in the last week. Last week users were 52000+ . Right now 53000+.


We're stuck at these numbers for ages now, and some countries are dying out already.


Spain lost around 150-200 users more, we are now under 5k of users ยก

We could be safely 50k

Last edited by Marot at 7/28/2011 1:17:56 PM

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191983.70 in reply to 191983.69
Date: 7/28/2011 3:20:49 PM
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I don't understand the argument of the NT players, if I hope right it will help to train secondaries

Of course I'm assuming the 10% will go to the low skills as some kind of elastic effect, in this way the cross training makes a lot of sense, and I'm almost sure thats the way it will go or else why would well-rounded players be less affected by it?

As for realism, it's good as well, as no player trains just 2 or 3 skills at a time ( every team play games at practice)

But I think the worst thing is saying something is s*** before we see the effects, and I also agree that the BBs could have been a little more clear as some of the confusion would go away and also the "it's the end of the world people".

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