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252575.61 in reply to 252575.60
Date: 1/13/2014 12:08:46 PM
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that 1 more team have the potential to drive the prize up. I'll refer to Obira on this, considering that such a case made him miss out of Steven Ballaert. he had sold a couple of players to get Ballaert, and missed out on him because a cheater got him. the consequence was that he lost more games than he would have had he gotten ballaert or still had his old players.

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it already is the case. i won't deny it. however, adding secondairy teams will increase the amount of times such a thing will occure. so yes, i'm against something like that, especially since it's likely to increase cheating cases (and more importantly, it will mean GM's have to make tough decisions based upon little evidence. it doesn't occure often atm, but secundairy team will make it a much more regular thing...

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u pay for supporter for your first team. the second team is then optional. hence, u pay supporter for your first team, not to get a second team (or not necessairily atleast). Futhermore, losing cash on your second team has no implications to your first team. u can drop a second team any time you want, u just have to wait to get a new one for 14 weeks if you do drop it.

So the second teams don't stand to lose anything. And if it's 4 managers vs 1 primairy team, who do you think the GM's are going to believe? especially if all 4 cough up the same story. I'll stress again, such a case has happened in Belgium already, to a current BBBL team. i'll let that team come forth if they want to and dive into the details then. but untill then, it remains a possibility. Now, it's hard to do because u can only own 1 team, so u stand to lose your own team (or teams, if u have multiple, but no smart cheater will want to bring that attention to his teams risking to lose em... with a secundairy team, u stand to lose less). if u make teams pay for having a second team, then they'd have something to lose. (so regardless of being a supporter or not, if you let em pay to have a second team, then yes i would agree with it. since then the manager of the second team stands to lose something if he doesn't follow the rules)

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well, not immediately. but 2 seasons in the lower division and you are certain to promote out of it, if u invest your cash wisely and train correctly, something which any current first division manager and most second division managers of large nations, could do. so yes, i do consider it to be an impact. i know many managers capable of that. within 4 or 5 seasons, u could be in II (or I, considering that it will most likely happen to smaller communities)

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concerning the advantage: i consider a second team it to be an advantage. if you don't, that is your own oppinion, but i think many will share the oppinion that a second team would be an advantage. This game exists because people enjoy it. because some people (supporters) give a little cash to be able to enjoy the game. but that fun is generated by both supporters and non supporters. eliminate the non supporters, and the fun would drastically decrease (atleast for me it would. the majority of the guy's i know in BB are non supporters). I'm not sure i'd want to play BB without the others to enjoy it with. So yes, supporters are important, but don't dismiss the importance of the non supporters. they provide other things that BB needs aswell.

anyhow, to each idea there are pro's and contra's. we can discuss about it endlessly, i've only looked at it from a negative point of view, because i like how BB is now. i don't feel the need for changes. but sometimes, change is necessairy. given enough time, i might actually warm up to the concept, but for now, i'm not in favor of it because it leaves to many loop holes. it's just my personal view upon it. and i'll ignore that last sentence of yours, since i already said i'd love expansion, but that i don't think this is the way to do it.

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252575.62 in reply to 252575.55
Date: 1/13/2014 12:16:41 PM
Kelmis Spartans
BBBL
Overall Posts Rated:
154154
Second Team:
Eupen Scythe
"Not possible, as explain in the first message of BB-Marin. You wouldn't be allowed to buy belgian players (in your case)."

Oh, John Smith, NT manager of randomcountry, I will take your player in my team, while you will take trucmuche, do we have a deal ?

I don't think this will be a regular issue, I just say it might happen, and this goes backwards to all what has been done in order to fight fram teams lately.

"If all the users for who 40$ is just like one more drunken evening were supporter, the game would be much better for everyone. But "why paying if I can play for free, without any disadvantage compared to my opponents?". Just because 40$ is nothing for you, but very important for the game, and because you love it.

When I think about the time I spend on this game, I would feel very guilty if I don't give anything in return. Maybe i'm just too honest..."

I really don't know how I should take that ... I will simply avoid answering angrily because I don't think you wrote that on purpose. So based on the time I spend on BB I should feel guilty because I'm not paying for it. OK, call me a thief then. (Although with all the advertisement I've been eating since I started playing I can tell you that I have paid dearly enough !) I really don't believe you write that ... whatever.

Having been reading the thing better and after reading some of your answers, maybe it's worth a try. No idea. I just have the feeling I can't think of all the consequences, and therefore am unable to judge whether it's a good thing or not.

@Joe, Polle, AZ, and all other supporters : in which country would you like your second team ? If I had to choose, I'd probably pick up France (or Luxembourg).

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252575.63 in reply to 252575.62
Date: 1/13/2014 12:46:49 PM
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@Joe, Polle, AZ, and all other supporters : in which country would you like your second team ? If I had to choose, I'd probably pick up France (or Luxembourg).


good question.

i'd could go with a number of nations. it would most likely be Australia, England, Japan or Ghana. it would be a nation in BB that i would have had ties with, that at the very least or where a couple of my BB pall would end up.. if they'd all go to one community, i might follow them there. They guy's who have supporter who i have a good relationship on BB would come from England, Netherlands, Frence, Spain, Canada, USA and Australia. if a group of them goes to one middle sized or small community, then i'll follow them since i'd be able to challenge them there. considering we are all playing in different BB nations (the only supporters in Belgium with whom i have regular contact are Joe & Angi. i can meet them in the BBBL so no need to go where they would go to :P)



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252575.68 in reply to 252575.62
Date: 1/13/2014 1:38:50 PM
KV Forever
BBBL
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@Joe, Polle, AZ, and all other supporters : in which country would you like your second team ? If I had to choose, I'd probably pick up France (or Luxembourg).


USA, England or The Netherlands :)
I can only express myself in English or Dutch, so that explains my choices.
I would stay away from the tiny countries since i'd like to have an active community.

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252575.70 in reply to 252575.69
Date: 1/18/2014 3:24:14 PM
Kelmis Spartans
BBBL
Overall Posts Rated:
154154
Second Team:
Eupen Scythe
OK, Mizu AND Joe are clearly out of my league. That's exhausting.

I can't believe I have them both in the very same conference ... I'm really starting to think I'll have to wait for them stopping the game if I ever want to win some day xD

OK this is "only" a 12-points loss ; but Arlon played a whole quarter with a lucky fan as SF !

Maybe this is not the way after all ...


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