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On the other game - We see a manager that is trying to overcome the exhaustion effect and he is completely punished for that, this is how 5 players squad will perform(one of his starters was injured early on so he was left with 5 players).

not to mention his 5 players have all 30+ years old.
basketball drains a lot of energy. IRL there is no player getting 48 minutes on a constant basis. actually even 40 minutes is not common at all. tom thibodeau used to play his starters around 40 minutes every game with the bulls, as a result his players were destroyed in the mid term (to name a few: Deng, Noah and the most infamous case of all, Rose). I hate injuries in BB but I might acknowledge that if there was a link in BB between excess of minutes and higher chance of injuries I would say it's logical and realistic (those who enjoy injuries in BB due to being realistic and a challenge couldn't deny this...)

what is not realistic in BB (and never was) is players playing 48 minutes every game. 5-6 player rosters being competitive and winning championships is way less realistic than teams being crushed in the last quarter because their players didn't get a single second of rest in the 3 previous quarters. so far I give exhaustion a big thumbs up

btw I'd go further. I'd establish that after a certain age players cannot play more than a certain amount of minutes. 33 year olds playing 48 minutes? no way. 33 year olds should have a threshold of 34 minutes or something (with max stamina). Even 28 year olds should cap at around 42 minutes. (For the sake of BBness, youngsters of course could play 48 minutes and get training). Managers should be faced with the obligation of having players to fill those minutes their starters won't play.

Last edited by Bernspin at 3/24/2022 4:18:04 PM

Finally someone wrote what I wanted to write and I don't have to bother. Have a +1, thumbs up, orange ball, wharever you want kind sir.

Hi BBs

How am I supposed to play with 9-10 stamina players ?
Can you answer that simple question and/or react to the many postings about the poor implementation of this new exhaustion feature ?

I've tried to "let the coach decide" and to "strictly follow", and each time the subs played only 0-3 min in the first 3 quarters. Then, all of a sudden during the beginning of the 4th qt, all my starters get exhausted ! Either they get subbed by anyone available, or sometimes they keep playing while being quite incapable of scoring... Making it impossible to play with a "normal" lineup in the 4th qt while the playing time could have been easily shared between the 7-9 players I put on my lineup !

Also, how random is the "exhaustion moment" decided ? Because my starters all got exhausted or definitely replaced with around 38-40min played, while my opponent's didn't seem to sweat once playing 45min. How fair and understandable is it ?

I've watched closely my last B3 games and I don't know how to deal with this new issue. Actually, I already know I lost my cup finals tomorrow and probably the playoffs too, given I'll be crushed in each 4th qt.

I let you guess how happy that makes me feel

he 3 players of your opponent over 40 minutes were subbed out in the first quarter.

That's also what I've seen... So the only way not to be exhausted is to rest for only 2-3min in first qt ? Then you can play the whole game while it is quite impossible for 9-10 stamina starters cause they never get subbed before exhaustion ? That would be so bad

I think the only solution now is to have substitutes (at least 2, best is 3) as strong as your starting players. When you look at the ratings your starting-five is clearly much stronger than your substitutes while your opponent has 7 players very close from each other.

Well from now I'll know that I need to train 100-150k players only ! Until
a new random feature happens and changes everything...

I don't know if the best teams won today. But once my best player got injured in first qt, then yes I had quite no chance to win no matter exhaustion and it's ok to me. The win is well deserved by my opponent

My comment is not there to complain about this loss, cause I don't, but only to insist on the bad behaviours of the GE given the BBs don't react ! And yes I fear that my last competitive season will be ruined because of this.

When I told "random", it was about the bad and unexpected side effects of this implementation. I have nothing against the idea to limit short rosters and yes the BBs have informed us for seasons about an incoming change so that's fair to me. Even if, as many said, having an implementation in the middle of the season might not be the best idea. Maybe LP and scrimmages could have been a good sample to test this change and make slight corrections before it impacts competitive games.

It is logical in some degree the frustration of slamdunk.

Drastic changes in the middle of the season and not properly explained isnt the way to begin with. For example you cant destroy training to atack short rosters! I started the season training 3 players (two 29years old and one 24) and around the all star one of the player played 42 minutes because of exhaustion. They changed it immediately.

What they should also change and i believe they will is examples like that. You shouldnt get punished if you have 2 or especially 3 substitutes in your game because your starters have 9 game shape and they dont rest during the game.

The intentions are good, but in this case was poorly executed.