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From: brian

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93604.603 in reply to 93604.602
Date: 8/27/2009 3:08:05 PM
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2. balanced attack: option 2 is problematic, option 1 is better


You have a little bit less inside defense but much more outside defense. The key here is what kind of player are they using at SF in a balanced attack? Most of the time a team that runs a balanced attack will be using a guard at SF instead of a big man.

I agree with Charles that many managers train inefficiently and with brianjames that the TL doesn't reward balanced training because buyers


Many do train inefficiently. In this case, training a player with balanced defense is, for the majority of cases, inefficient training. You could train a 6'2" guard, starting with 7 OD/7 ID to this:

10 OD
8 ID

or

12 OD
7 ID

I'll take the 2nd player every time. I get to play them at their best position and they end up better defenders overall. The 1 level of ID AND the performance loss from that player being out of position is not effective from whatever angle you look at it.


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93604.604 in reply to 93604.598
Date: 8/27/2009 3:21:30 PM
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I can say you that your player was weak?9-8 in the two defences at that point of the season is too low in both the defences(is a little over a guard who started from average in ID and had a pop in that skill training ID),also for an equilibrate defender,and at medium level,one pop is still important for improving the pefromances of a player.And you have to use however a complete Sf for the mismatches he can create,this choice doesn't pay with that offensive tactic

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93604.607 in reply to 93604.606
Date: 8/27/2009 4:07:15 PM
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No,that player was weak...and if at his age he was the best player of that type,you was unlucky as trainer of the U21 because it was a bad year for that kind of players...gave him two level more on inside shot,one level more on rebound and one level in both the defences and look at the difference between the player you was talking and this new player
I'm training a Sf which is actually out from our U21 team,and two week before the start of post season,he was stronger than the players you used in that gameall the thing i listed above more than your player,only a level less in JR

Last edited by Steve Karenn at 8/27/2009 4:10:22 PM

From: brian

To: Coco
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93604.609 in reply to 93604.608
Date: 8/27/2009 4:48:48 PM
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My point is: given identical skill sum a balanced player is worse than an unbalanced one.


Plus it's much more difficult (inefficient) in training the balanced player.

As long as these two points are true BB will see very few "well-rounded" players.

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From: CrazyEye

To: Coco
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93604.611 in reply to 93604.606
Date: 8/27/2009 5:32:05 PM
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in myx eyes i would go for the balanced defense, also for the NT(most of the german SF play so, JosefKA pointed out why), but we put more effort in training defence.

On SF position the balanced player work good(maybe i would focus on a offense, but not on defence because you don't know how the opponent play). I would better takes SG or PF as example, where to train "the opposite" training is less valuable, because of the trtaining speed and the worth on the position he had to play and the progress for the game the player made.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 8/27/2009 5:34:34 PM

From: brian

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93604.612 in reply to 93604.610
Date: 8/27/2009 6:16:58 PM
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you don't care about them being cheaper in salary either?


As long as someone else does the off-position training and I dont have to overpay for it. So far so good.

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Date: 8/27/2009 8:18:04 PM
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you don't care about them being cheaper in salary either?


As long as someone else does the off-position training and I dont have to overpay for it. So far so good. :)


Then you'll have to hope he isnt from China unless there is something done about the cheat(s) that will sadly block your attempts to purchase the aforementioned player(s)

I think i've been in position better than a lot to experiment with out of position training. My observations are its tough (rewarding? who knows)

TL wise I think my players have attracted slightly more on average becuase of the prominance of my team NOT the skillsets of the players themselves.

OD 12 ID 6 I would also take every day over OD 10 ID 8.

If we are all wrong and inefficient then the TL will of course not reflect Charles perceived extra value as we simply dont have enough data to go by and will always seek comfort in the skillsets of those we have learnt to believe and trust.

If the training was opened up (maybe temporarily for 2-3 seasons) we could then really test whether the extra ballache is worthwhile. Until then its better the devil you know than the devil you dont.

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