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From: zyler

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Date: 8/23/2010 9:07:05 AM
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as my "salary cap" comment got deleted i guess ill answer this properly

simply put it is non of your business at what speed we hit our cap as it has nothing to do with you at all.

we dont need to rush to our cap to win so why would we ?

if someone in my div was at the salary cap while the rest of us wasnt id laugh at him because to me thats being a bad manager.

yes he would go 22-0 , but he would still go 22-0 with less salaries and be able to save some money.

at this point in time theres no need for aussie teams to rush towards the salary cap.

this has got to do with the competitiveness and has zero to do with you not having buying power.

you do not have buying power because your at your salary cap.

thats it im done.


From: Marot

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if someone in my div was at the salary cap while the rest of us wasnt id laugh at him because to me thats being a bad manager.


Nice post to your II partners, ''hey lets not reach the salary cap and we will have great incomes without the need to go in a higher level''


at this point in time theres no need for aussie teams to rush towards the salary cap.


oO

PD: I prefer you write 1-2 words than writing this no-sense posts.

From: Joetheshow

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Date: 8/23/2010 9:26:20 AM
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There is a guy on your league paying 350k in salaries and then there is guy paying 250k in salaries and they are both sitting with 10-4 record,so which one is making most of his salaries?
Also guy with 11-3 record is paying 250k in salaries and meanwhile you are with 12-2 record you are paying 300k in salaries,who makes most of his salaries?


Really believe that the total amount of wages can explain everything?
Don't you think there are other variables? Injuries first of all! But also draw the games against teams from the other side of the series (in a highly competitive division, like in Italy or Spain), is not indifferent to meet some teams away or at home .....



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Date: 8/23/2010 9:31:40 AM
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Now he promoted to div2 while you were busy battleing relegation.

Have you seen the standing of the season 12?
I came sixth with a record 13 victories and 9 losses .... the fourth ranked (last to participate in the playoffs) had a record of..... 13 wins and 9 losses!
Among other things, see how far I got a couple, maybe you understand something ....

How is that possible? How did he manage to surpass you? Does he have a different salary cap or is he a better manager? Isn't that what this game is all about. I chechked your past league winners and one of them is in serie A now, that should also be impossible.

How is this possible? This is because our league is a level of competitiveness that you will not even imagine! Easy to win when you play against teams of low-level, easy to say we decided not to reach the salary cup .... Certainly not reach, do not need it! The problem is that this choice affects users of nations very competitive when we confront in the one place where we can do this: the global market (and remember, don't want to go on the market to buy players over 100k salary, but only to buy affordable young talent to train whenever I sell one of the players I grew up at home)

All I see here is a cry for help when going get's tough. Do you understand that even if you get something extra or something will be removed from the small countrys it does not change the fact that there are 5000 users in Italy and your position in the Italian powertree does not change.

But in fact I do not want to change my position in the Italian powertree.
As mentioned above I just want to buy young talent at reasonable prices.
It is unfair that users from highly competitive nations (Italy, Spain, etc) playing in the minor leagues have great difficulties to go on the market to buy young talent for the simple fact that we face users from nations uncompetitive that can easily win their leagues and and accumulate money and money and money……


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Date: 8/23/2010 9:38:07 AM
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while they have less expenses to fight in their counry,giving them room to train their own player
Who said you can't train your only player? Who is stopping you?

Being near the cap,when you train some players their wages rise season after season,and you go over the cap and you have to sell some other player,if you can't have higher incomes by the promotion(but only one team promotes).So you can't train player with the highest potential because you can't sustain their growth during the seasons,while you still have room to grow player with higher potentials

buying players on the market whithout be forced to temporarily weaken their team
What do you mean by this?

We have not weekly cash flow,so if we want to have money to use on the market we have to sell some strong player of our team.Selling a strong player,your team became weaker,till you don't buy another player,right?During the time you need to replace your player,with a weaker team,you have an higher risk to lose game.If you lose game,you then lose incomes from arena.You have not to do this,because you have weekly cash flow.That is the difference in the market,and you can't say that this is not true


so,ut's fair that we still continue to be disadvantaged on the amerket?what we should do,wait other 30 seasonsk?
I don't see why you need more players though? If you don't make enough to buy the player, how do you support the salary?
Well I'll post my economy page and you post yours. Let's really see where this money is coming and going from.

Baseline Weekly Economy
Expenses Revenue
Player Salaries: $ 124 515 Attendance: $ 182 454
Staff Salaries: $ 40 775 Merchandise: $ 35 007
Scouting: $ 5 000 TV Contract: $ 74 502
Total: $ 170 290 Total: $ 291 963
Typical Weekly Net Income: $ 121 673

League Averages from Last Week
Expenses Revenue
Player Salaries: $ 109 396 Attendance: $ 142 023
Staff Salaries: $ 66 542 Merchandise: $ 34 118
Scouting: $ 11 666 TV Contract: $ 74 502
Total: $ 187 604 Total: $ 250 643
League Average Net Income: $ 63 039


That's my pages

Baseline Weekly Economy
Expenses Revenue
Player Salaries: $ 252 203 Attendance: $ 164 309
Staff Salaries: $ 32 732 Merchandise: $ 36 909
Scouting: $ 10 000 TV Contract: $ 103 044
Total: $ 294 935 Total: $ 304 262
Typical Weekly Net Income: $ 9 327



League Averages from Last Week
Expenses Revenue
Player Salaries: $ 263 112 Attendance: $ 155 043
Staff Salaries: $ 41 768 Merchandise: $ 34 910
Scouting: $ 4 687 TV Contract: $ 103 044
Total: $ 309 567 Total: $ 292 997
League Average Net Income: $ -16 570

You can see what are the differences

Last edited by Steve Karenn at 8/23/2010 9:39:30 AM

From: Ref

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You want to buy talent???????????????????????????????????then sell some of your existing players and you will able to...
Also salaries management is most important thing in your case nothing else will help it starts with YOU,obviously there are other variables that you mentioned but it doesnt change the fact that guy with 100k less salaries has same record...

From: JamesBond

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Date: 8/23/2010 9:46:56 AM
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You want to buy talent???????????????????????????????????then sell some of your existing players and you will able to...
Also salaries management is most important thing in your case nothing else will help it starts with YOU,obviously there are other variables that you mentioned but it doesnt change the fact that guy with 100k less salaries has same record...


If he wants young talent,he has to sell his veterans(losing in talent in the short-term) and then he can't train his young guys properly,because a 18 yo can't hold his own against his competition..

If you want young talent,you just buy it(since you can make 100k/week) and you can easily train it because your division sucks..

Can you know see his point?

I want what all men want...I just want it more.
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Date: 8/23/2010 10:00:17 AM
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Now responce to every team who keeps janking the "I can't buy this and small country club can steal that" chain. I'm trying to explain this now with something anyone mature enough can relate to: The difference between Italian and Australian III division team is like two people doing the same job and getting payed the same money for it. The first one has leased a house, an expencive car, a computer, tv + anything you can imagine that can be leased. In other words he has maxed his credit limit. The other guy does fine driving some medium class car and living with his mother. Basically keeping his expences into minimal while still living a good life. You can take the tv contract and the merc as a work quality bonus. See how you can't just give the first guy extra because he is spending more. If he wants to buy another car for his daughter for example he will have to sell something or show enough quality to get a better job (win the league and promote).


Are they doing the same job?
Your "job" is to be the best possible manager and to have the stronger team possible,so how you can say that the Italian and the Australian team are doing the same job?
Italian team is doing a far better job,in an harder competitive situation,and is paid with the same money of the Australian team.Your example explains in a perfect way what's wrong in the economy


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Date: 8/23/2010 10:00:35 AM
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You want to buy talent???????????????????????????????????then sell some of your existing players and you will able to...
Also salaries management is most important thing in your case nothing else will help it starts with YOU,obviously there are other variables that you mentioned but it doesnt change the fact that guy with 100k less salaries has same record...


If he wants young talent,he has to sell his veterans(losing in talent in the short-term) and then he can't train his young guys properly,because a 18 yo can't hold his own against his competition..

If you want young talent,you just buy it(since you can make 100k/week) and you can easily train it because your division sucks..

Can you know see his point?

Thanks :-)

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