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From: Emilio
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Date: 11/10/2009 6:38:15 AM
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I like very much this new tactical option for both improving the training and the in-game strategy.
After too much time talking and thinking about economy, finally I have something better to stimulate my brain.

In my case, I perfectly knew that this change was going to come. So communication from the BB staff has been perfect this time. Anyway this is not a change that you need to prepare with time, it is just a new tool to use for the managers.

On the other hand, I still consider that the language used in the News could be improved.

We have noticed that player develpment is linked to what position they play on the offensive side of the ball, no matter what skill they are working on.


I think this is one of the most important piece of information, but it is written in a very confusing way. As it is written, most of the users would not remark how important it is. At the end, LAs have to do the work of understading the importance and interpreting the sentence for our community. We cannot traslate it literally like Google... so finally the "literature" you want to include will be lost in traslation anyway.


¡Me aburro! (Homer Simpson)
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118241.62 in reply to 118241.61
Date: 11/10/2009 7:18:40 AM
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Is "player develpment is linked to what position they play on offense, no matter what skill they are working on"
better?


Last edited by BB-Forrest at 11/10/2009 7:19:17 AM

From: Emilio
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In spanish we traslated it as "Es importante saber que el desarrollo de los jugadores (entreno) está asociado a la posición en que juegan en ataque, sin importar qué habilidad se esté trabajando.

So it means: "It is important to know that the development of the players (training) is linked to what position they play on offense, no matter what skill they are working on".

If I wanted to be more explicit, I would have even use "no matter what skill they are training".

¡Me aburro! (Homer Simpson)
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118241.64 in reply to 118241.63
Date: 11/10/2009 7:58:55 AM
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I think a wonderful new feature has been implemented and everyone is focusing on the wording not the actual feature. Its like the kid on Christmas who's more interested in the box than the toy.

BB's I think it was mentioned above, but I didn't see an answer. How will this effect rebounding match-ups? In my head it makes sense that O Rebounds would be at the offensive position and defensive would be at the position we set for them to cover.

Also how will this effect the player ratings?

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Date: 11/10/2009 8:03:02 AM
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Its like the kid on Christmas who's more interested in the box than the toy.


But unlike on Christmas, the box matters as well; however cool the toy is.

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Date: 11/10/2009 8:39:03 AM
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Thanks a lot.

We waited such stuff for a long time

On BB-France, there is one thing we are discussing about this measure :
Would it be possible in the future that the measure might be efficient for substitutes too ?
(I mean to choose a defensive position for my PG, C or whatever N°1 and another one for my N°2)

I mean if I want to train a C like a PG or whatever, that's great.
But perhaps, during an important match, without thinking about formation, I would like to use one kind of defensive position for my player N°1, but not for my substitute because they have not the same kind of skills.

Perhaps am I anticipating far too much, but i wonder if this measure would help training multiskills players (yes, it's the big point here, and that's great), but would also prevent from using 2 players different at the same offensive position during an important match, when used.

Ok, that's not a big problem somehow since, if this happens, well, I would not modifiy the defensive position.
But if it could be improved by permitting the same kind of decision for substitutes, it would improve even more the measure

Anyway, thanks again for your efforts ;)

Last edited by Dunker Joe at 11/10/2009 8:51:16 AM

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Date: 11/10/2009 8:58:07 AM
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On BB-France, there is one thing we are discussing about this measure :
Would it be possible in the future that the measure might be efficient for substitutes too ?
(I mean to choose a defensive position for my PG, C or whatever N°1 and another one for my N°2)
I think that would be hard to introduce. What happens when your N°2 guy is about to enter the floor to guard the PG the starting C is already guarding? Then you need to change all five players at the same time.

/Mannen
From: Rahvean
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Date: 11/10/2009 8:58:52 AM
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okay, in that news post we didn't just say "sometime in the future", we actually said SPECIFICALLY season 10, and then in the forums we clarified that it would happen at the allstar break.

We should have clarified this in the start of the season 10 news post, we did say so in the forums.


And how can I find older news posts? Last one (on my list) is from 2009-07-24.

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118241.69 in reply to 118241.68
Date: 11/10/2009 9:08:30 AM
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I think it is highly unlikely if not for something else then for just because Let coach decide with blank slots is a legitimete lineup.

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118241.70 in reply to 118241.67
Date: 11/10/2009 9:48:18 AM
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correct, it actually becomes quite difficult to figure out what lineup to actually put on the floor in this case because you need to make sure you have every offensive AND defensive position covered. It makes it easier when you know that as long as you fill all 5 offensive spots you are gonna have all 5 defensive spots covered. I think if you write down some more complicated contraints and think about all the various possibilities that the coach would face while trying to make a substitution you can appreciate the problem.

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118241.71 in reply to 118241.64
Date: 11/10/2009 9:54:35 AM
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rebounding will work as you would expect it to, you box out the guy who you were defending. So if you swap for the purposes of defense, you are also swapping for the purposes of rebounding.

I don't know what you mean by the player ratings, do you mean the matchup ratings? the matchup ratings are a measure of offensive efficiency and will continue to be calculated in exactly the same way. Obviously how efficent you are is a function of who is guarding you, so in that way they are affected by defensive swaps i suppose.


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