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175200.61 in reply to 175200.60
Date: 6/5/2012 8:46:23 AM
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nobody knows all the rules. Every now and then, a GM has to recheck the rules. Those manuals sometimes need new translations, which means they've been modified in some way. GM's don't read the game manual each season or so. However, we do check it when we are in doubt. I doubted it, so i wanted to check up on it.

And just to be clear, i've asked for it to be mentioned in the manual, that way the discussion will be over and once it's in the manual, all confusion about what is allowed, will be gone. The rules posted on the forum rules ( the sticky in our belgian community) was a copy of what was written on the GM forum when that question was asked.

And just for the sake of mentioning it, i've also asked for a review of the rule that might include prospects. problem with it tho is that if prospects are included in the advertising then it's going to open up advertising for all high potential drafts each season... So let's give the BB's the time to check up on the rule and re-evaluate it, after which they'll add it to the game manual. Once it's written their, it's clear for anyone and all GM's, LA's and Mods will be able to intervene accordingly.

last few things:

@ Joe: while GM-Arsji was U21 coach, i assumed he knew what he could and could not do, so i didn't check it either ( my bad). i've send Arsji a mail with a reminder and a reference to the topic where it was discussed and all posts were taken away. GM's are only humans, they make mistakes aswell ( that is why their is an appeal system). Arjsi had probably forgotten about it, and let's leave it at that.

@ Laurens: nobody is blaming you. I didn't issue a formal warning, since i doubt it was required ( and it's hard to issue one if that part ain't mentioned in teh game manual or on the forum prior to when i posted it in the sticky), so no harm done.

Now that those things were mentioned, i suggest we end the discussion here and now., let's end this discussion here and now. This topic is supposed to go about U21/NT information, and we've got several posts about GM's decisions/rules here.
If someone wants to continue this discussion, open a proper topic about it.





Now to get back on topic: as you all know, their is a french 2-3 monthly little magazine that comes out concerning BB (name: Buzzerbeater echo). Usually, Sum did the resume about the U21 and NT ( aswell as BBBL) for it, however, i think he's forgotten about it ( come to think of it, i haven't heard anything from him for a long long while, snif)

If their is anyone willing to take up that task of writting something about U21/NT for that 'magazine', please let me know. Qualifications that are needed are:

*) you need to be fluent in french writting
*) you need to have a sence of humor and some creativity aswell

that way, we can keep atleast some news from the belgian community about it in that magazine ( and that said, Sum was a genius when it came to creatitivy. I enjoyed many of his articles). So if someone would want to do that, it would be great to see them come forth.

GM-Revo

ps: anyone aware if the dutch do something simular?

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175200.62 in reply to 175200.60
Date: 6/5/2012 9:57:19 AM
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Well the thing was that those post by Architect make me think that it was allowed to post something like that...
Because he's a GM afterall!
But it's good to know that I'm not allowed to do that... Of course I want to respect the rules, but as Revo stated I don't know the rules by heart. I will pay attention to it next time and I will not post any not-selected players on the forum!

which is totally understandable.
if we would judge you knew about it and posted intentionally, we would have sanctioned you for it.

as far as I know, all Revo did was point out to everyone what is alowed and what not.

It's just sad someone has to fight such info.

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175200.63 in reply to 175200.61
Date: 6/5/2012 10:15:57 AM
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And just for the sake of mentioning it, i've also asked for a review of the rule that might include prospects. problem with it tho is that if prospects are included in the advertising then it's going to open up advertising for all high potential drafts each season...

that would be easely abused.
who is going to judge if a youth is a prospect or not? if the U21 or NT managers judges he is, then he is, so any player could then be advertised...

the reason we alowed advertisement of U21 or NT players on the squad , is to prevent players who already made the cut, to go to waste.
Prospects didn't prove anything yet, there is so many factors that will lead to the prospect NOT being fit to enter the squad after all, so there is no reason to advertise them on the forums.
Per definition player advertisements on forums where forbidden a while ago. An exception was made for a select group of special players.
To alow it for a much bigger group of prospects is not what was intented.

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175200.64 in reply to 175200.63
Date: 6/5/2012 1:59:28 PM
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i know that it's a dodgy thing, and that if prospects are included the zone wheither or not it's advertising seriously goes down. However, in some communities some GM's allow it if it's a prospect. If they maintain this rule, you should wonder: will those GM's react? i'm certain alot won't... and if that happens then an unfair balance is created. So whatever the rule is, it must be for everyone. Sticking to the rule could chase of guy's to external fora's... yet, if you include prospects, then their has to be a clear line draw some how, or we could end up with NT/U21 coaches advertising for old players who can't make the NT anymore, or don't have the potential...

anyhow, the BB's are talking about it, and it's futile to discuss it here. (got some stuff that still needs clearing out on mail)

And just so that it doesn't get lost: the offer for a 'French PR' who covers our U21/NT for BB-echo still stands!

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175200.66 in reply to 175200.64
Date: 6/7/2012 8:21:15 AM
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yet, if you include prospects, then their has to be a clear line draw some how
that will be impossible. whichever rule or line one will come up with, there will be real prospects who will not make the group, and there will be non-prospects who will be in the group that can be advertised.

@Joe. I understand you are upset by that, but your reaction was wrong. You shot at someone who did his job, rather then at those not doing theirs. So that's why I neded to react.

Anyway. Higher staff is looking into it now, and we will hold to whatever they decide we should be doing from then on.

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