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278000.62 in reply to 278000.61
Date: 4/6/2016 6:47:53 AM
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In my league of 10 active users, only 3 are training players with any sense of purpose.
And here lies the real problem. We know that if everybody was training, we would be short in trained players. You estimate that only 30% of the teams you interact with are actually training. The logical conclusion we will all need to play with untrained scrubs at any level. Except for people who are a the luxury tax threshold and have loads of millions to spare.

At this point it should be clear that raising the salaries by changing the salary formulas at all levels would slow down the transfer market, so it's definitely a good idea. However it still does not address the underlying problem, that by default, without a significant influx of free agents, the game can't train enough players (even if 100% of the users were training and not 30%).

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278000.64 in reply to 278000.63
Date: 4/6/2016 1:44:15 PM
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What salary range are you talking about and how many seasons of training? I'm just curious.

If you mean you can "train" 9-12 players to 10k-20k salary and 80-ish TSP I could even agree. I'd struggle to call a 3 seasons effort "training", but I'd agree that's possible.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 4/6/2016 2:05:45 PM

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278000.65 in reply to 278000.62
Date: 4/6/2016 4:04:51 PM
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In my league of 10 active users, only 3 are training players with any sense of purpose.
And here lies the real problem.

Exactly! If training were something sensible enough for every manager to do, almost every manager at every level would do it and competition would become intense for wins, for championships, with almost every manager in contention. But as long as it isn't sensible, forget it.

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Date: 4/6/2016 4:38:56 PM
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But its also important that its not too easy. Where is the challenge in just selecting from a drop down box? Or just selecting players to receive training?

At least with the current system training players is an actual challenge. It shouldn't be a given that every manager can 100% train any player they want at any skill without doing anything. Theres no competition in that.

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278000.67 in reply to 278000.66
Date: 4/6/2016 4:58:52 PM
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But its also important that its not too easy. Where is the challenge in just selecting from a drop down box? Or just selecting players to receive training?

At least with the current system training players is an actual challenge. It shouldn't be a given that every manager can 100% train any player they want at any skill without doing anything. Theres no competition in that.

And that is the usual reply to my point about reforming training. Nobody says it should be easy. Nobody says it should be child's play. Training needs reform so badly that people have to make things up in order to try to say otherwise. See?

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278000.70 in reply to 278000.67
Date: 4/6/2016 5:55:03 PM
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For what its worth I agree that training could do with being updated somehow but i think if its done it shouldn't be made easy. There has to be a challenge.

I would like to see more available higher level trainers and think it would help many issues short term.

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Date: 4/6/2016 8:22:32 PM
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hey guys, i am following this treat for a while and I think i read the most the substantial posts, especially about training. I thought about an option that might be a compromise.

i) it doesn't change the training system completely
ii) it doesn't make training easy
iii) it allows to train in higher, competitive leagues
iv) it is more realistic and you can see the improvement of your trainee and follow his development.
v) you don't have to train "too far out of position"
vi) all players get better a little bit every off season (training camp)

just have a look and tell me what you think -> (278239.1)

Last edited by jonte at 4/6/2016 8:28:08 PM