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Date: 5/3/2017 7:40:59 AM
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A Barca fan complaining about referees :'D
How did you come to the conclusion I'm a Barcelona fan? More straw mans so that you can avoid the facts? Smh.

Like City is batter then BVB, tell me their success last years in UCL and I will tell you what BVB made?
PSG is 2nd in France, Napoli is 3rd in Italy just 1 point to the 2nd place.
Opinion. SG is better than Napoli and Roma although they are close. Fact PSG is doing better in their league than Napoli.

Yes yes, and few non-existent penalties for Bayern and etc :'D and Bayern offside goal at Bernabeu, if the referee was on his best that goal would not counted and we would not saw the extra time where Real scored their off goals.
You thought about that maybe?
First game: the hand ball was a penalty. If a player hits the ball with the hand in the box while moving the arm towards the ball (or not removing the arm) that's an obvious penalty penalty unless he's really too close which wasn't the case with Carvajal. Real fans whining at the decision are really more like spoiled brats. The penalty was irrelevant anyway as Vidal shot it in the stands.

Second game: 4 minutes and first yellow for Vidal on a sanctionable foul (it was his first foul). Casemeiro at least 4 sancionable fouls and 0 yellow cards throughout the game (good enough for 2 red cards), including a blatant bodycheck and all sorts of dangerous tackles on Robben. At least they gave the obvious penalty although that should have been another yellow for Casemeiro as it was an obvious late tackle foul. Offside called on Lewandowski when he was 1 metre onside and was just alone against the keeper with the closest defender 5 metres away. Man, Ramos is often garbage in the middle, but he raises his hand and the referee just gives it to him every time. Second yellow to Vidal is purely ball and great acting by Asensio. The second Bayern goal looks good to me as it's debatable Lewandowski is ahead of the ball when it's touched last by Bayern. Real's requested a penalty, but it was a shoulder contact and lot leg contact as for Casemeiro and Robben, correctly not given.

First Rubaldo (as he's called in Italy, from rubare, to steal) goal: ONE metre offside. Second Rubaldo goal: also offside as he's clearly completely in front of the ball when the pass is made. Let's just say live TV English commentators were laughing at the shambolic pro-Real refereeing...

keep watching RM and CR7 in the UCL, road to the final, again, and again and again, 11 and counting!
I hope he does. Truly. And when he's level in ballon d'or and champions league titles with Messi, we can have a conversation if they are on the same planet.

There will be haters.
Indeed: Messi haters


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By the way,last night to first goal....Rubaldo was again talented....to score after an offside! Yes yes,it was an offside again! And no not at the second ball to him,but to first!

First you must know the rules of the game you watch.
1st cross, Ronaldo has nothing to do with it, he didn't touched the ball or had any effect on the game.
It was not an offside, simple as that. Football rules.

This is where we hold them!
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To me that's a penalty: the defender moves the body towards the ball and does not remove the hand on time. So body goes right and arm goes left and the ball ends up hitting the arm and not the chest. You can be sure of this as the ball goes directly down instead of right as it would have happened if it hit the chest.

If he didn't move towards the ball you could make the case that it's not voluntary, but as it happens, he clearly tried to stop the ball, but he was too late to stop it with the chest, so he stopped it with the arm. In Italy and here that's a penalty, no question, and the referee was Italian.

Vidal shot the ball in the stands anyway so it did not affect the result in the end.



Also don't butcher Sheed's immortal words. If you don't know, you don't need to quote incorrectly.

Ball don't lie....

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he didn't touched the ball or had any effect on the game.

It was not an offside, simple as that. Football rules.
Ignorance is a bliss. 20 years ago, like today that's offside 100%. This is the rule:
Offside position
A player is in an offside position if:
• he is nearer to his opponents’ goal line than both the ball and the
second-last opponent

A player is not in an offside position if:
• he is in his own half of the field of play or
• he is level with the second-last opponent or
• he is level with the last two opponents

Now the rule is INTERPRETED in a way that if the referee deems the player to not participate in the action before another pass is made or the other team touches the ball, he can decide not to call it. It's left to what the referee thinks and it's based on his personal opinion. It's called passive offside.

This was NOT the case here. On that first cross the referee should have definitely called offside (it was very obvious) as Ronaldo was offside and he was definitely participating in the action as the cross was directed to him. This was not a passive offside. After he made the mistake on the first cross there is obviously no offside on the second.

I like how you don't know the rules yourself, but bash others incorrectly:
If you still can't understand I suggest you look here as it explains it for you. Offside shouldn't be called only if the player offside is very far from where the ball is passed to or maybe he's running towards his own goal without drawing attention from any defender.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxNbEyrumKg

Last edited by Lemonshine at 5/3/2017 8:31:02 AM

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If we judge players by their playstyle, their elegance... Then Messi and CR are shit compared to Ronaldinho.
lol this is like the argument that Kobe was better than Jordan because he has a better looking jump shot. When all the rational arguments are pointing at the same result, homers resort in subjective measuring.

Barca fans saying that CR doesnt have talent like Messi because he doesnt do elegant moves... Thats why I made idiotic comparison.

But you can say whatever you want... Ronaldinho at prime > Messi at prime.
Ronaldinho was just amazing to watch. Noone can do shit like that with ball on grass (dont mix football with futsal please). And who said attacker must be GOAT? Maybe Cafu is actual goat?

PS: Kobe was shit compared to Jordan. Just look his stats. Terrible. You cant even talk about greatest player of all time when he wasnt even MVP in most finals he won... Shaq was, Shaq carried Kobe in 3 finals.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/829579-kobe-bryant-wil...


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