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156862.62 in reply to 156862.51
Date: 9/22/2010 3:15:57 PM
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I think it's not about making place 3-5 place more attractive, it's about making 6-7 place less attractive.

Relegation games should not award any money at all. It should be only about staying in the division.

Only PO should award money and right now the situation is fine. The better you were in season the better you get from arena income.

All manager should know that at least you have 11 home game and so you have to be careful about your salary because if you don't make to the playoff you have 2 weeks without any game income. For PO team it's like little bonus they deserve for being the best team in the division.


What you say makes sense. Remove income from the relegation games and much of the problem would vanish. 5th places will still have a disavantage, since 6th and 7th will be able to get more training minutes. But nothing compared to a 5th placed who gets 0$ and a 6th who gets $750k. The way things are it is better to end in 6th. I personally don't regret having managed to end 6th instead of 4th or 5th... I won my first relegation game, made 300k and now can expect to earn more 450k until next tuesday... not bad at all...

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156862.63 in reply to 156862.61
Date: 9/22/2010 3:24:57 PM
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look my post above (156862.51)

i suggest to remove money from relegation game for that purpose


but this will leave the 1 and 2 placed teams still with a lot of bonus to the rest, and i beleive you will target it without a huge fincial profit.

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Date: 9/22/2010 3:35:35 PM
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Well they deserve something for being better than 12 teams in their division no ?

And they have to win their PO games to get a lot of bonus. Nothing is sure for them they can also face huge financial problem.

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Date: 9/22/2010 3:51:10 PM
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Why teams need to get help ?

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Weekly expenses only for players of the teams,5th this season in italian Serie A=698106

This teams had to stay two weeks without incomes,losing 1,4M during these weeks.It's enough to take a team to a failure

You had to pay your players during these weeks,if you don't want to create a phenomenon of wild trading during the off-season in all over the market,so you had to allow the manager to sustain their players if they are in a low position in the standing,and have to reward the winning team


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Date: 9/22/2010 3:58:36 PM
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Well they deserve something for being better than 12 teams in their division no ?

And they have to win their PO games to get a lot of bonus. Nothing is sure for them they can also face huge financial problem.



i don't say they deserve nothing, i say they get to much which could make it hard to catch up for the rest even when they ain't bad managers.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 9/22/2010 4:03:13 PM

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Date: 9/22/2010 4:00:47 PM
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Well they deserve something for being better than 12 teams in their division no ?

And they have to win their PO games to get a lot of bonus. Nothing is sure for them they can also face huge financial problem.

playoffs incomes and if they winr promotion bonus are not enough?

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Date: 9/22/2010 4:22:56 PM
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His last week expenses for players : 744293 don't forget the player he sold.
And you throw me his salary but what about the salary for all Serie A team ? Was he way above, below or at the same level than the other team ?

Last season #5 were Costantinopolis and cremcaraml this year they are #2 and #5 it's not like their #5 place kill the team and the next season ?

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Date: 9/22/2010 4:36:45 PM
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His last week expenses for players : 744293 don't forget the player he sold.
And you throw me his salary but what about the salary for all Serie A team ? Was he way above, below or at the same level than the other team ?


lets take it from another view, when i come to the final i get around 1 Million as the away team, because i should be able to win at home when Laim play normal as usual.

Maybe you could say that is just one salary, but i also could say that 500* the weekly income of average team in my league(at least few weeks before the PO actually we are at +75k, but we also have a team who made 500k each week during the complete season) - and through two home games i already make a lot of money before i reach the final which make it hard to catch up for the rest.

I think this isn't much different to the serie A.

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Date: 9/22/2010 6:01:15 PM
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His last week expenses for players : 744293 don't forget the player he sold.
And you throw me his salary but what about the salary for all Serie A team ? Was he way above, below or at the same level than the other team ?

What's the conncetion with the fact that he had to spend 1,4 M in 2 weeks without having incomes only to have his players for the next season?

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156862.71 in reply to 156862.70
Date: 9/23/2010 6:16:30 AM
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this is so easy to fix i just cant believe it

the real problems are 5th place and 8th place suck, 8th perhaps should but why does 5th?

issues
1) no games on the first tuesday ruin training in the penultimate week
2) no income for two weeks

so the simple thing is to have an "exhibition match" betwee the two 5th place teams (and the two 8th place teams if we are feeling generous)

it takes place at the home arena of the team with the better record
it lets both teams schedule training
and to compensate the teams a little (but not make it better than coming 4th) first half the normal gate (it is an exhibition match, 1/2 price seating) then instead of the home team getting 2/3 make it interesting and let the winner get 2/3 and the loser gets 1/3 - so for example i take in about 200k a match, if i was hosting an "exhibition match" there would be 100k in the pool 66k for the winner and 33k for the loser - obviously in higher leagues this would be a lot more

it wont be much, but it will be much, much better than getting nothing

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156862.72 in reply to 156862.1
Date: 9/24/2010 2:17:13 AM
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This leads always to curious situations, lwith highlights like this game -> (23028923).

I see several possibilities how to avoid walkovers as a tactical choice in battle for "better" (lower) position.
If walkover team is home one then no arena income for this match.
If walkover team is away one then no arena income for next home match.
But still teams should set extremly bad lineup without walkover - it should lead to very unhappy fans and very bad match income next time.

I can imagine even harder conditions for walkovers:
- automatic relegation for every team with any walkover (either one level down or to the bottom level)
- in draft order first teams without walkover and behind them all teams with any walkover
- no training at all for the week with walkover

Last edited by rwystyrk at 9/24/2010 2:17:49 AM

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