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Date: 5/3/2017 8:07:37 AM
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By the way,last night to first goal....Rubaldo was again talented....to score after an offside! Yes yes,it was an offside again! And no not at the second ball to him,but to first!

First you must know the rules of the game you watch.
1st cross, Ronaldo has nothing to do with it, he didn't touched the ball or had any effect on the game.
It was not an offside, simple as that. Football rules.

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To me that's a penalty: the defender moves the body towards the ball and does not remove the hand on time. So body goes right and arm goes left and the ball ends up hitting the arm and not the chest. You can be sure of this as the ball goes directly down instead of right as it would have happened if it hit the chest.

If he didn't move towards the ball you could make the case that it's not voluntary, but as it happens, he clearly tried to stop the ball, but he was too late to stop it with the chest, so he stopped it with the arm. In Italy and here that's a penalty, no question, and the referee was Italian.

Vidal shot the ball in the stands anyway so it did not affect the result in the end.



Also don't butcher Sheed's immortal words. If you don't know, you don't need to quote incorrectly.

Ball don't lie....

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he didn't touched the ball or had any effect on the game.

It was not an offside, simple as that. Football rules.
Ignorance is a bliss. 20 years ago, like today that's offside 100%. This is the rule:
Offside position
A player is in an offside position if:
• he is nearer to his opponents’ goal line than both the ball and the
second-last opponent

A player is not in an offside position if:
• he is in his own half of the field of play or
• he is level with the second-last opponent or
• he is level with the last two opponents

Now the rule is INTERPRETED in a way that if the referee deems the player to not participate in the action before another pass is made or the other team touches the ball, he can decide not to call it. It's left to what the referee thinks and it's based on his personal opinion. It's called passive offside.

This was NOT the case here. On that first cross the referee should have definitely called offside (it was very obvious) as Ronaldo was offside and he was definitely participating in the action as the cross was directed to him. This was not a passive offside. After he made the mistake on the first cross there is obviously no offside on the second.

I like how you don't know the rules yourself, but bash others incorrectly:
If you still can't understand I suggest you look here as it explains it for you. Offside shouldn't be called only if the player offside is very far from where the ball is passed to or maybe he's running towards his own goal without drawing attention from any defender.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxNbEyrumKg

Last edited by Lemonshine at 5/3/2017 8:31:02 AM

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If we judge players by their playstyle, their elegance... Then Messi and CR are shit compared to Ronaldinho.
lol this is like the argument that Kobe was better than Jordan because he has a better looking jump shot. When all the rational arguments are pointing at the same result, homers resort in subjective measuring.

Barca fans saying that CR doesnt have talent like Messi because he doesnt do elegant moves... Thats why I made idiotic comparison.

But you can say whatever you want... Ronaldinho at prime > Messi at prime.
Ronaldinho was just amazing to watch. Noone can do shit like that with ball on grass (dont mix football with futsal please). And who said attacker must be GOAT? Maybe Cafu is actual goat?

PS: Kobe was shit compared to Jordan. Just look his stats. Terrible. You cant even talk about greatest player of all time when he wasnt even MVP in most finals he won... Shaq was, Shaq carried Kobe in 3 finals.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/829579-kobe-bryant-wil...


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Your source Youtube guy.
My source FIFA.com

- "Interfering with an opponent” means:
Preventing an opponent from playing or being able to
play the ball. For example, by clearly obstructing the
goalkeeper’s line of vision or movement.

- Making a gesture or movement which, in the opinion of
the referee, deceives or distracts an opponent.


Then go and watch the goal again, what did he do? Nothing of that, he had no influence on the game, on the keeper or on the defender.
But no, you know batter then fifa, batter then a referee, batter then specialized people over the world who say clearly that is not an offside.

Just give me one explanation, seriously, how does he participate in the action (1st cross).
He didn't touch the defender, he didn't touch the ball, he was not obstructing anyone on the field, it should be offside just because you don't like him or?

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