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Date: 8/5/2013 5:35:37 AM
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Hi guys. I posted this on the Questions Thread and I'm also posting this here since I think Pilipinas U21 should get a say on this choice.

I have a question po mga idol.

Sa list of prospects ko ngayon merong 3 players na confused ako kung sino i.draft

Player 1 : 19 yr.old 6'3" PF - 5 Star/5 Potential [A+] (Could be a great PG/SG with awesome non PG/SG skills)
Player 2 : 18 yr.old 6'3" PG - 5 Star/4 Potential [A+] (Could be a great U21 PG)
Player 3 : 18 yr.old 7'1" C - 5 Star/4 Potential [A] (Could be a greate U21 PF/C)

Which player do I choose?

If I choose Player 1 it would be because I have plans of selling him (I normally don't train Guards and Wings). He should be an MVP or higher potential player. Depending on his potential (HoF or ATG) there is a low chance I might train him as a PG. If I do sell him, how much would this type of player net me (considering he is 19 yr.old)?

If I choose Player 2 it would be because I will definitely sell him for a lot of cash (I normally don't train Guards and Wings).

If I choose Player 3, I could train him to become a great U21 PF/C. The problem right now is that I already have a crowded frontcourt consisting of a (23 yr.old 100k+ C [Pinoy and Originally drafted by me] , 18 yr.old MVP Potential PF [Pinoy], 19 yr.old MVP Potential C [Foreigner]). If I do choose this player I have several options.
a. Sell this player
b. Sell 19 yr.old MVP Potential C [Foreigner] (most probable option)
c. Sell 23 yr.old 100k+ C (I'm hesitant to do this)

Which player do I choose?
Player 1 with all the potential, Player 2 with all the cash, or Player 3 as a definite U21 prospect? Currently, I'm leaning towards drafting Player 3.

P.S.

It's okay if my League-mates see this post since I'm almost guaranteed to get the first pick in this draft. If ever I drop to 2nd or 3rd pick, there really is no wrong choice among these 3 picks.

P.S.S.

If Pilipinas U21 manager wants me to train Player 3 for U21 I will definitely pick him.

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138525.624 in reply to 138525.623
Date: 8/5/2013 6:11:10 AM
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Player 1 would not be much of a big money for what i see considering his age.. as there are some managers who value age most.

Player 2 is my favorite.. he is definitely a big pile of money ranging from 250k and above.

Player 3 not good for me at all though your training bigs..

My Suggestion:

Pick Player 2 as for me he would then benefit you 100k+ Center in the future.. you would have a combo in your rotation and as you said your front court is crowded.

or You could pick player 3 making your front court more unstoppable and try to buy some old guard from the transfer list.

But for me being the coach of our U21 i would choose player 2 because of his A+ against the A of your center.

THE DECISION is still in your hands, Im only showing possibilities on your decision.

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Date: 8/5/2013 7:06:02 AM
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WHAT A GAME INDEED! PH U21 UPSETS HK U21


Coming in to the game the nationals practiced without a ball a day before the game and the players were confused of what are they doing and some said "Hinde na ata basketball laro natin eh" "HAHA! Invisible na bola". But when coach PH - Nz said it was a part of their preparation for the upcoming tough match against Hong Kong who are eventually a title contender in this tournament. Coach explained that the value he is trying to employ to his players is that they must know how to move without the ball and how they could impact the game without the ball in their hands and imbue them with a sense of hungriness for the ball. The players responded on having a good practice mastering their baseline back screens and their shotgun plays.

Before the game they were seen meditating in the locker room with fellow assistant managers Basketmaniacs and jeorge9 concentrating on physical toughness and pouring them with a sense of urgency when needed.

On the get go of the game the nationals were ecstatic showing their A game early on and playing the strategies both defensively and offensively with ease. At the end of first quarter we lead in the tune of 32 - 14 making everyone smile in the nationals bench and the nationals who are in attendance. The second quarter was a wake up for HK as they exchange basket after basket ending the quarter score at 28 a piece. Halftime score 60 - 42 PH leading by 18.

The 3rd quarter was gruesome as both team are making hard fouls and playing very physically as several players from both squads are pilling up the fouls. The 3rd quarter was a close one alone but the total score tallied up to a 21 point lead by the nationals.

On the start of the fourth quarter coach decided to rest all their starting players and it was a good choice as the HK did the same by that point the spectators see that the HK team is giving up on the game and it was clarified by the way their players play.

PH U21 106 - HK U21 91

After the game coach PH-Nz was really happy on taking the interviews not like last week were he was so heated up..

FIBA ASIA: Coach what a big win for you guys, what could you say?
PH-Nz: I don't know what to say, all of our hard work payed off and the team played splendid basketball there sending messages to other teams what we have in store for them..
FIBA ASIA: Going in to the tournament there are several issues on your candidacy, do you have anything to say?
PH-Nz: Hater's gonna hate, They always see me talking so arrogant and always think im dreaming.. well guess what im fulfilling that dream upsetting higher salaried teams and were heading in the right direction on making heads turn for us and for me that i can coach better on what they think of me. When everyone doubted me and no one believe me i was so down but held on and the only one that believe me was myself.
FIBA ASIA: Last question, Any thoughts on the second round?
PH-Nz: I see ourselves in continuing our rhythm and momentum on games.. and more upsets in the making. Thank you!

2ND ROUND COMING SOON!!

Last edited by Don Manoah at 8/5/2013 2:15:52 PM

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Date: 8/5/2013 10:05:16 AM
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Sir, ano po pala ang difference nung A+ and A ng player 2 and player 3? Better yung potential ni player 2 kesa ni player 3? 4 star kce yung potential nilang dalawa....

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Date: 8/5/2013 2:12:06 PM
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A+ and A are referring to his current skills.. A+ meaning cguro marami siyang respectable skills na agad both primary and secondary while A means good primaries and only average secondaries.. Just to put it for better understandings.

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Date: 8/12/2013 7:31:24 AM
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NAIL BITTER ON DIFFERENT EFFORTS!

On the get of the game, The nationals went sizzling and furious making an 18 - 8 lead on the first quarter getting everyone complacent as the can see their opponents having minimal success on offense with only their minimal effort. Even the water boys are complacent on towel throwing as they can see the players not even breaking a sweat. In the midst of the second quarter our team quite sweat a little but still maintained the lead on the tune of 42 to 28 and making everyone happy as even the assistant coaches were fooling around on wearing uniforms and sneaker and were about to sub in for some players in the court and shouted "Old School can manage"

Opening the 2nd half the complacency of the U21 team showed up big as throughout the quarter they are getting shocked on whats happening with them and the other team as if they switched skills with them, And as the quarter closed the Singapore U21 to a 54 - 61 closeout to trim the lead and make the game a contest. As seen on the bench of our U21 team every coach where furious in the huddle screaming and shouting and ranting on the players even the private manager of Reynante Porter .. boyrondo shouted in the stands saying "Porter is that how you play defense?!!" The fourth quarter got even more serious when the Singaporeans shortened the lead to 5 just only a two basket game.. The Habagat's responded and brought the lead up again.. but still the Singaporeans won't back down easily.. they trimmed it again to 4 courtesy of an and 1 dunk. The free throw was missed by the Singaporean and bad luck for us it went to the hands of another Singaporean player, but luckily for us his follow through missed and we contained the rebound hence making as call a timeout in this crucial moment of the fixture. As soon as the team got out of the huddle they were near perfect again playing smart basketball and cruise in to win a 92 - 80 game..


Next game will be against a tough Indonesian squad .. with the promotional line "Battle of The Undefeated"

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Date: 8/19/2013 6:21:53 AM
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"Battle of The Undefeated"

The game to be honest is the toughest of all the games our HABAGAT team has ever faced, It's also the most pressured pack game the coaches and the fans have ever witnessed this season. On the start of the first quarter, the game was annoying as you would hear the whistle of the refs every now and then and bad luck to our momentum the calls where on us, Specifically on Reynante Porter as he sizzled on having 4 fouls totaled at the end of the first quarter. To the second quarter we go on a little scoring run with Ulan Cantara leading the way. Serana was out of his game managing only 1 - 9 FG against his defender and it shocked everyone on the arena. With 2 minutes remaining on the 2nd quarter Reynante Porter picked up his 6th foul getting everyone more nervous as he was the only bright spot for the team. The whole team's head are on the ground while walking in to the lockers.

The team was closed doors on the huddles.

On the start of the third quarter the game got even pressured packed as the Indonesian team cruise to a mini run of their own that got the game to a close one.. and still Serana was out of his game, A sad look on PH-Nz as he was seen shaking his head while looking at his salty player. Then the game turned and shifted to our favor, Vescatcho then turn heads on his scoring with the all out effort of Cantara the two guys rallied out like a storm as they would tandem on both defense and offense giving the team a breather lead for the start of the fourth quarter.

Last and deciding quarter, everyone hold on to their seats.. as both teams are not giving up. Purijianto for the Indonesian team was unstoppable.. making him on fire throughout the quarter. But then luck came again to our side as Serana suddenly exploded starting out from a ridiculous shot from rainbow country to baseline dunks and face-up jumpers of his defender, he turned out to be the man he really is and forgotten his miserable 3 quarters and putting the game aside. The HABAGAT team cruised to a 106 - 94 victory against a very very tough Indonesian team.

Interviews were held at the end of the game as their are some managers left on the arena

FIBA ASIA: What can you say about the game?
Teardrops: the game was intense, mr. 4th quarter ngayon si serena.. haha
FIBA ASIA: Any shoutouts?
Teardrops: sana mag pop up si Vescatcho sa training.. haha!


FIBA ASIA: What can you say about the game?
The_Sherminator: Wala akong masasabe ang galing ni Porter! Foul out agad AHAHA!
FIBA ASIA: *Laughs
The_Sherminator:HAHA, It was a good game.. joke lang un boyrondo


NEXT GAME ANOTHER TOUGH ASSIGNMENT AGAINST TAIWAN

HOPE TO SEE MORE MANAGERS ON THE CHATBOX

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Date: 8/20/2013 6:15:02 AM
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HAHAHAHAHA! Manood ka daw kse!

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Date: 8/26/2013 5:54:45 AM
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MORALE IS SKY HIGH!


Our U21 team did it again.. 89 - 70 winning against Taiwan.. PH-Nz gladly spoke on the interview saying "We really didn't expect we would win by this margin it was so unthinkable." "I guess our team is one of the best defensive U21 team out there!"
Any thoughts on some specific players coach? "Ulan prove again he is the captain, Porter showed he can play defense and Noche was energy guy out there.. best game for us so far.. "

On another interview a spectator on the name of Mr.Harry was seen watching the game and were asked for a few questions. Here is what he has to say "It's my first time watching a live game of our U21 team and I think it will surely not be the last one. Man, it's awesome! They have clearly outrebounded TaiwanU21, they took care of the ball better and the question becomes very simple for anyone watching them "How can you beat that team?". I'll continue to watch games like this and I'm hoping I can draft a good U21 prospect next season for me to be able to contribute in this crazy yet awesome basketball utopia."

Thank you to all the managers who have watched the live games with me.. it means a lot to me..
- PH-Nz

Next game against INDIA U21

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I agree ^^

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