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If you win the election, and the team is struggling, you have to promise to say:

"Juicepats is not walking through that door. Brianjames is not walking through that door. Cococolomono is not walking through that door. People don't realize that, and as soon as they realize those three guys are not coming through that door, the better this team will be for all of us."

Promise?

Well that's it then, I dislike your management, and officially dislike you now as well.
WHy would I contribute, when I never liked your management of the team?

You could say its carpet bagging, but it's better than me belitting your decisions game by game. God knows I am active in this game (log in pretty much every day, talk frequently with a variety of managers to expand my thought process about the inner workings of the game). You had your inner advisors, and the group think that resulted from it led to the results we had.

I wanted no association with your regime. I'm amazed that people think you were successful. I think with the resources at our disposal, not having a single appearance in the finals is nothing but a failure on your part.

I realize that if there was a national perception of you as a failure that would hurt. You care about your legacy deeply, and on the club level that is secure. However, you have had 3 cracks at it, and have failed to overachieve in any of those attempts. In baseball you would be out on strikes.

Simply put, you failed. You had awesome resources, and wasted them. It will only get tougher for America from here. If you, as a voter reading this, thnk that Juice was successful, you clearly wont want to vote for me. I will do things differently. Very differently. You may not like me, but my team has been successful, regardless of what coco said (my first season i joined 20 games into the season and didnt really log in till the next season)

As for alienation, I would not want anyone that got us to where we were, that's true. That's not to say that I dont have a good network of friends, real life and otherwise in this game, some at very high levels. I would lean on them, and I would make my own decisions.

If there is a different candidate that thinks things need to change, and dramatically, and you think they are better, then by all means vote for them.

However, the post i previously referenced here: http://itmightbedangerous.blogspot.com/2008/06/draft-review-about-process.html

Well that couldnt be more true

The graph part of the way down sums it up. You could have one term, and be truly unlucky. But over the long term, you end up in either the top left or bottom right boxes. I maintain we underachieved and are now deservedly in the bottom right box.
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Championship teams will occasionally have a bad process and a good outcome. Championship organizations, however, reside exclusively in the upper half of the matrix. Some years it may be on the right-hand side, most years should be on the left
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I will leave it to the reader to where we reside. I will say that if the d3 guy wins and wants my help, i will give it to him. Realistically though, if the continuation of the prior regime wins, there is no reason for me to contribute, unless if the candidate enjoys getting heckled.

Quite frankly, I wouldn't vote for you if you were the only candidate.

You have shown zero interest in the USA NT except when election time comes.

Azariah is a newer member, and I think he cares about the NT past the fact that he has a chance to run it, unlike you.

wozzvt clearly cares about the NT even though he has not been the coach - he's done a fantastic job of helping to build our scouting infrastructure and database of player skills. This is not something he had to do, and something he wasn't even asked to do - he volunteered and got it done.

It would be a terrible thing for the USA NT to see someone who is in it only for themselves, who runs away and hides if he doesn't get his way, and seems to be more interested in promoting himself than anything else.

I have no use for someone who wants to be a big talker but hides his bashing comments towards me. At least you were classy in the aftermath of your failed South Africa campaign: (78034.1)

Past that, performance is the thing that counts. I don't think you have th

Here's one for you all. If you lost would you still help out the team?

100% depends on whos running it.

If someone sincerely wanted my help, gladly.

Here's one for you all. If you lost would you still help out the team?

I plan to still be around as the grandfatherly sage-like advice dispenser if the winner wants it.

I know of at least one candidate that has a history of abandoning the USA NT scene if they don't get their way (i.e. win).

Juice, you have been our only nt manager. Given our antpathy towards eachother, its clear I would only help you if you had just been hit by a car, or a bus.

Ok, so working with the U21 Manager as a team is a big part of holding the NT job. It's sorta like you are the president and the U21 is your vicepresident.

So I'd like to hear who your ideal candidate for U21 position next season would be, and who you would absolutely hate to work with.

I'd also like to know how long you guys are planning to be the NT manager. We've had pretty long terms from Juice and Coco has had 4 seasons. Is more turnover good, or is the stability of having a single manager better in your opinion?

I am strongly of the opinion that one term is enough.

Two is absolutely greedy.

Three is criminal

My preference if i could pick anyone would be namssor, even though he is likely to be ineligible. HE is probably the best training manager and communicator i've seen.

If you win the election, and the team is struggling, you have to promise to say:

"Juicepats is not walking through that door. Brianjames is not walking through that door. Cococolomono is not walking through that door. People don't realize that, and as soon as they realize those three guys are not coming through that door, the better this team will be for all of us."

Promise?

deal, but only if i get to add some other rick pitino quotes along the way, and at have at least one foolish full court press, and give up on at least one hypertalented 22 year old too early...

actually scratch that, i dont even need that. you have a deal stogey.

You have not helped the U21 either.

And, at least at first, I have not been in any way hostile to you. In fact, if I recall correctly, you had endorsed me the first time I ran and I was pleased with that. The second time I ran, after an Americas championship and a poor run in the worlds, you were singing the "failure spiel" about my two-season tenure with the U21---without having ever contributed a single opinion.

It's not about Juice. It's about you and wozz and Azariah and about how both of those guys have proven to care more than you.

you never once reached out, i endoresed you and not one bb-mail, not once "whats your email"

heck there are owners that have my phone # i woulda given that to you too.

truly a misunderstanding. there are a fair number of people in d3 and d4 that have asked me for help and i've given it to them. i am not going to give my input unless asked generally, but if asked i am happy to help.

i have email exchanges, bb mail exchanges, and those teams have gone on to be decent, though as in the case in all mentor cases the mentor only deserves 5% of the credit at most

with that said, your performance was defensible this season, the results didnt go your way but at least you were forthright in explaining your process.

So I'd like to hear who your ideal candidate for U21 position next season would be, and who you would absolutely hate to work with.

There's been a really great set of people involved in the u21's with Coco (yourself included, as well as people like FatCurry, Azariah, jfarb and others) doing scouting, etc, that I think are getting a great feel for the u21 players and the quality of the opposition. I think that kind of familiarity is very valuable. But I think we've got a lot of good managers scattered around, so I think it's really a matter of finding one of them that's willing to put in a fair bit of time and effort.

I'd also like to know how long you guys are planning to be the NT manager. We've had pretty long terms from Juice and Coco has had 4 seasons. Is more turnover good, or is the stability of having a single manager better in your opinion?

I think it depends on results, and if things are going poorly, the elections will take care of this on its own. That said, I can't imagine doing it for as long as Juice has--the amount of time he's put into the team is remarkable.