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+1 :p

but these numbers should be correlated, so a guy who did it often with full succes should also have more trys who affect the shooter.

Hmm interesting discussion!

My U21 trainee, (12014552) has trained very balanced. All the 4 inside skills are on 13-14.
If you look at his stats, he doesn't get many more SB's than a normal C. (avg 2.3 now)
But if you look at the match stats...

In this cup match, (29011112) he played 48 minutes. My only C that game. Against 2 C's who aren't really bad.
Look at the PPG! 106 vs. 78.5! Also take a look at my inside D rating, my PF who played 46 mins, has got only 8 on ID ;)

In this PL match, (26074313) he played 46 minutes. Most of the time against a C who isn't really bad, but my opponent C scored nothing on the floor court. PPG: 121.2 vs. 83.0

And last but not least, this U21 match. (12320) he played 42 minutes with 8 SB's!!! In a U21 match, against very good opponents on the C position (100k+ salary). If the Dutch U21 haven't had that 8 SB's, we'd probably lost the game..

So, with this statistics, I'll say SB isn't useless.
For sure we don't know how the stats were if he had not an SB of 14, but I agree with BB-Charles.

Last edited by Nick at 11/9/2010 9:30:48 AM

im thinking......

shot blocking is something to help with the inside defense.

if your opposition going to make 5/10 a game with your ID
you might lower it to 3/10.


im thinking shot blocking only effect the shot that are going to make the basket despite your ID,
when ID stats determine the opposition should score the basket, that's when SB come into play.


i mean if they are going to miss everything from your inside defense stats, the shot blocking is no needed.

thus makes shot blocking only a compliment to ID



i think......
Their offense - Your Defense = Actual Shooting % without Block Shot
Actual Shooting % without getting Blocked - Shot Block = True Shooting % for the game

I'm training Shotblocking instead of IS this week as a result of this thread

I think shot blocking is useful in one way or another, we just don't see exactly what. If it was useless, it wouldn't be there in the first place. But one thing I want to note is that it's only put as secondary skills for C. If it was an important skill and a skill which forces a shooter to alter the direction of the shot etc, I think it would be listed as secondary skills in other positions too. But then again, it could be that the people who wrote the list of skills a player need didn't know that shot blocking is actually an effective skill in terms of defense...

I agree with you here. I dont think that SB worths the salary boost on anyway expensive big men...

Itis, but again none is paying 8M, for any big man on those days. Yes in the past was that case. 8M is a money that are reserved for the very special players, and still i am not sure if anyone would pay that amount for any player...As about the income, i think that the max that we can have is 1M. Talking about my team, 856k, with well above to average merchandise profit (around 130-150k). So on that money we should be able to reassemble the best team that we can, but also have to worry for the future renew to our teams. For example, i recent sale a very good SG, that i bought him when he was 26 for 4.3M, and after several tries i got only 1.6M for him on his 29. I replaced him with a much much better player, but if i had than monster i couldnt afford to do it. Plus the taxes if you buy/sell very often, plus the Fun servery.

As far as about rebounding, its a skill that is very clear how it helps you to win games, and thats why managers are willing to pay for it. Not comparable. If we get a clear evidence that SB can have good value for money, i guess that people will start to pay for it.

And yes the salaries of the big men are absurd compared to the guards...