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From: zyler
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Date: 4/30/2010 7:04:36 PM
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this thread is classic.
an idea that gives more advantages to players who can be online when the most users are, yer what a great idea pfffft.

put simply really dumb idea.

and he actually suggests selling for lower because prices at times you can be on are lower then at 2 am in the morning.

as users have said the fan system already takes care of this, and while it only has a tiny effect , its because trying to sell a player in this type of game depending on where you live can be more or less difficult thus shouldnt be further punished

From: CrazyEye

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Date: 5/2/2010 9:55:39 AM
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TPE is not always way off. TPE is rarely way off. Sometimes it is being influenced by the cheaters. If you want to sell your player check the TL for similar players and watch how much they sell for, then list your player. If you really have no idea how much your player is worth, list him at $1.


Ok i check this with my team, only 2(!) player in my entire team have a TPE and the TPE from one of them is way off the other is a minute killer with a tpe around 5k and we could een discuss if you could sell them for the maximum price of 60k.

So now lets take a look at the bookmarked player i like to buy, you see the same. A advanced minute killer who runs out from this list and looks like that:

Age: 26

9-7
9-5
9-8
6-8
7-8
5-8

XP: 6

So guess the how much he is worth, i am pretty sure that this is very different from the TPE.


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140518.66 in reply to 140518.65
Date: 5/2/2010 10:27:02 AM
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What is a minute killer?

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Date: 5/2/2010 10:34:33 AM
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What is a minute killer?


aguy who plays in scrimmage, so that my regular player don't overplay there.

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140518.68 in reply to 140518.67
Date: 5/2/2010 10:41:10 AM
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ah okay, anyway as for the player you listed, I would guess he is worth between 800k and 1.2 million. Is that right?

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Date: 5/2/2010 11:00:10 AM
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tpe says 300k ;) And he was sold for 1,5 Mio, which isn't good but quite normal i think(i just see a other player who already have those bid, and another player who sold as comparision).

From: Kukoc

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Date: 5/2/2010 11:33:04 AM
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So as a newbie you list him at 300k. Does that mean he can not be sold at 1,5? There would be more bids on players. Now are you proposing that all players tpe-s are way off and they actually sell much higher. You do know how tpe is generated right? Did he have tpe 300k with "he is probably better than all those players" added to it?
What are you proposing? list every player with TPE 300k for 1,5 mil? Because they are actually worth it?
I'm glad that you pointed this out, as it actually supports this suggestion. Newbies should use tpe, so list your player at 300k, it does not matter if you eventually (after a bid war) receive 800k, 1,2mil or 1,5mil. Now if you think you are all that supermanager and think you know about all the player prices: list your tped 300k at 1,5mil and GET THIS! he does not sell = then you pay player not sold tax, it prevents you from constantly listing him again at 1,5 mil for the months to come.

From: CrazyEye

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Date: 5/2/2010 11:45:35 AM
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So as a newbie you list him at 300k. Does that mean he can not be sold at 1,5?


no, but when the tpe is often non existent or 500% off(maybe also in the other direction?), doesn't that mean that they know tit.

And for listning to low, you get propblem with the times zones etc. Take a look at this post, i found accidently today when going into "global" -> (135029.104)

I'm glad that you pointed this out, as it actually supports this suggestion. Newbies should use tpe, so list your player at 300k, it does not matter if you eventually (after a bid war) receive 800k


or loose their founds because they think he is worth 5* of it, and have to find the right price through testing it, or recognize after listening the player to low that they lost lot of money because he was worth much more.

Now if you think you are all that supermanager and think you know about all the player prices


currently i am not that manager, which makes yourr suggestion even more bullshit, as you heard i have one tpe'd player in my team. I normally had to ask my "transfer guru" to get an idea how much money i could get for my players when i sell them, not everyone have a transfer guru like me who they could ask. With buying the problem is smaller because you normally watch at more then one player, for selling i at least don'Ät have fun to plan this ahead 7-10 days to find the right comparision and get their final prices.

From: Kukoc

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Date: 5/2/2010 12:12:43 PM
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For average player there usually is a tpe to help you. Newbies rarely start with great players with and have that transfer problem.
Remember tax is 1% so paying 10k for listing your 300k player at 1mil does not actually kill you. It prevents you for doing it over and over again.
currently i am not that manager
I did not say you were that manager. But I know some of those exist, saying I know this player is worth this and that to me and keeps them on tl constantly high priced. Those players sell seldom, after misclick or some not so bright managers bid. It's a deliberate system abuse and that is something I want to stop. I can monitor some of the estonian leagues but not all of them and certainly not the whole bb.
It's easier to set this tax, then to assign a GM to certain number of leagues to monitor every team after 3 days.

From: CrazyEye

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140518.73 in reply to 140518.72
Date: 5/2/2010 12:17:33 PM
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so i am newbie cause i don't know the transfer prices exactly?

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140518.74 in reply to 140518.72
Date: 5/2/2010 12:56:13 PM
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Your arguments just dont hold water.

Just because you are upset to see the same players over and over again - maybe it is you that should alter your transfer search options (put in max bid = price you are angry about seeing minus 100k)

You also consistently fail to take into consideration why managers sometimes will pay more and also why managers attempt to list at the speculative end of a meaningless TPE. Nationality of a player, player lacking a salary intensive skill such as RB/JR when its not vital for a position (could save 30-50k a week on some players), recent injury forces manager to make a purchase, rival manager is also bidding on the same player you anticipated buying, looming transfer deadline, ambitious managers buying to go deeper in cup tournaments, managers who received more from a recent sale than expected and are therefore happy to bid beyond where they first set their limit.

Lets give up on this idea of a tax and just let managers old and new decide what they want to list and pay.To say Newbies should follow TPE's (I assume this means that experienced managers shouldnt?) also makes little sense at all.

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