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In my opinion merch income is one of the most overrated things in the game. My team should be about as bad as it gets, low salary, in a relegation fight, and only one American (who is a recent purchase). I've been making a bit over 40k/week. Ignoring the Cat's NT bonus (I'll get back to it), he's making about 25k per week more than me. Let's say roughly half that is due to him having a great record and more than double my salary. That leaves only a ~13k bonus for having an American roster with multiple self drafted players. This is pennies in D2, and not nearly enough to make up for ignoring 90% of the transfer market.

The NT bonus is one of the few times when the merch bonus can be worth it, but this is only available to a small number of owners, is not that good for NT bench players, and is almost never worth it in D3 or lower due to having half your salary/value tied up in one player. Even in D2 most NT starters are too expensive to make up for the merch bonus.

If Tanner starts/plays a lot then I usually average 80-85K, but if he doesn't then I'm lucky to get 65-70K. It's definitely worth it to have player(s) on the U21/NT though, I mean that's still pretty much a free weekly 20-30k (league average merch: 50k).

But Coco gets to play Tanner at SF however much he wants every week. I get to play my "PF" Tanner at backup SF or PF and then another game 48 at PG. -_-
Luckily he's the 7'0 LeBron of BB haha.

Wow, that's crazy. So even with your all-American team & drafted American star... you *still* aren't making more merchandise $ than I am! In fact even less than me(!) Honestly I thought you'd be at $100k+ every week. Legitimately surprised.

Anyway I'm worried that you're online right now & even posting today too! Do you have some crazy 1-3-1 zone or other tactical magic in store for me?

edit--- fuuu i changed my settings at the last minute. didn't mean to submit. the 1 day i'm actually online at gametime... sadface. well GL & hopefully no injuries. (i probably won't be around to see it live) wish it could have been at my place instead!

Last edited by shikago at 1/5/2013 7:50:36 PM

Yeah, I agree.
Was under the impression that merchandise $ for American teams/stars would be higher than it actually is. Still can't believe my merch $ is equal to greater than Kentucky's!

Anyway GTG, see y'all later.

Looks like I'm investing in NT players next time around. Guess it doesn't really matter if they are American or not. Interesting.

Actually my "scrubs" play in league games on a regular basis especially during the cup, so I figured I would go out on a limb and count them too. Kenton Anderson played in all games but 1 by the way (27 mpg).

The reason my merchandise isn't as high as it "should be" is because I play my players out of position (or limited minutes at natural position) for training/GS purposes so they don't do nearly as well as they could which means not as much merch money.
Example.
UK's Tanner (playing out of position): 14 ppg 3.4 rpg 6.1 apg
Lethargy's Alas (playing natural position): 26.8 17.9 rpg 3.1 bpg

Hm which player's jersey is gonna sell more....

Yeah, I know what you mean. It could be worse, though. Alas is a fan favorite. I sell out seats when ML comes to town. My fan base contributes to lot of ML and KU merchandise being sold. Heck, I think they're even purchasing 'Anonymous.' Jerseys, too.

I meant his fans would be more likely to buy Alas jerseys than my fans buying Tanner jerseys, (hence the stats) at least this season.

Yeah, I understood that. I've seen what Tanner can do during last seasons playoffs -- when started in the correct position.

Edit: Looked at the box-scores, noticed you and ML recently played. Darn, I wanted to see a Tanner-Alas matchup (At PF).

Last edited by A-Dub at 1/7/2013 5:58:17 PM

Hahaha well I'll simulate the results for ya.
Alas - 81 points 39 rebounds
Tanner - 20 points 8 rebounds 22 assists 7 steals

Lol I'm kidding. You know Alas would never score on Tanner ;)

I smell a rivalry brewing. Maybe we'll get to see a finals match-up this season -- Alas Vs. Tanner. I'm also curious to whom would win in a fight between the two. Hah.

Looks like I'm investing in NT players next time around. Guess it doesn't really matter if they are American or not. Interesting.

Yeah, I think you should just find the best available players for the best available price. If they happen to be American, then great. If not, oh well. Keeping/having a couple drafted stars might be a good thing though. (IMO)

What's interesting:
Based on the reported numbers... you had the exact same merchandise bonus that Kentucky had at the start of the season! Your $69k, vs. his " lucky to get 65-70K" (without NT playing time). So either 1 or more of the following is likely true: A) a team full of Americans does even less than w_alloy estimated. There's a cap on the bonus from American players & you both hit it. or C) A couple drafted stars are worth the same as a team largely full of non-drafted American stars.

I wanted to see a Tanner-Alas matchup (At PF).

I'd like to see that matchup, but at center! [Appropriate emoticon goes here.]


Edit: blah, you posted when I was. It seems interesting looking at his team's history that he's suddenly now trying to win. Seemed kind of cool he was obviously focused on other things. (judging by the fact that he spent seasons 7-18 in D4 or lower) Cool factor is declining rapidly...
Edit2: wasn't being sarcastic with that. good to see people not always super desperate about winning / no-fun
Edit3: lol, when i skimmed over your post initially... for some reason I thought you were joking about an actual rivalry between me & Kentucky, not just the players. Multitask fail. Well, the following posts really are unprompted then, aren't they?

Last edited by shikago at 1/8/2013 7:52:14 PM