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Btw that's just 1 of many reasons why BB-s shouldn't approve this, you can read my other posts so you will get it.

I read all your posts and I think you are just pushing your argument without considering what others have to say. Also you contradict yourself:

No one is safe, countries on Balkan too, that's a hot topic, imagine in one league people from Bosnia, Croatia, Serbia, Albania, Montenegro, Macedonia..

Quick example, Croatian managers train Bosnian players with their second clubs, Bosnian teams train Croatian players with their second clubs, we just make a deal, that is OK? ..

So to prove one of your arguments, you assume balkan nations wouldn't go along well...but to prove another argument, you assume balkan nations would go along well...

Possibility of cheating is already there. 2nd team wouldn't add anything to that. I can call my cousin from Croatia right now and ask for a favour - open up a BB account, buy two 18y HOFs from my country and train them like I want. I can do the same with my friend from Serbia, another friend from Italy...I can even log into their computer once a month to spare them the work!

2nd team wouldn't open up any possibilites of cheating that don't exist already. And actually what I described technically isn't cheating at all.

I respect other opinions, that not mean I must agree with them.

You know what is an example? Just a random thing of 1000... possibilities, so I chose the easiest way to get it closer to other.
It could be any country that make a deal, this is a double advantage to bigger countries, this is regular allowing to cheat and have farms.
The example with your cousins and friends is funny, don't need to comment this. I just ask, why didn't you do this if it is so good?

The cheating is not the biggest problem.
For me the biggest problem is that I want to play in my league with people from my country. It's simple as that. I don't want a International league or something like that, I play in my country league.

Imagine how would the micro nation leagues look like.

Again example, Pakistan 1 League

1 team from Pakistan
1 England
2 China
4 USA
1 Italy
1 Hong Kong
2 Espania
1 Argentina
2 Poland
1 Ukraine

Great, that would be an great 1st league for Pakistan users, they would really love it.

The example with your cousins and friends is funny, don't need to comment this. I just ask, why didn't you do this if it is so good?

Because that's not what the game is about...It's like asking "if you know how to pick locks, why don't you steal things from other people's appartments?" Well because there are things called dignity and honesty...

Again example, Pakistan 1 League

1 team from Pakistan
1 England
2 China
4 USA
1 Italy
1 Hong Kong
2 Espania
1 Argentina
2 Poland
1 Ukraine

Following your example, the way Pakistan league works right now is:

1 team from Pakistan
15 bots

I guess current state is much better, right? Tell me, what would make you leave the game sooner...international competition who you can learn from and actually have competitive games against, or whole season of 60pts+ wins? I think even if that lone Pakistan was a nationalist like you, he'd prefer playing against real teams, albeit foreigners, to 15 bots from his own country.

Great, that would be an great 1st league for Pakistan users, they would really love it.

Oh, they would hate it because you hate it, right? Just because you hate it, doesn't mean everyone else will feel the same.

Last edited by Koperboy at 1/3/2014 9:23:16 AM

Let the option to people chose in witch league they want to play, simple.

You really don't mind when I say "example", what is with those countries with 20-100-200 active users, would they like that their national league is a mix league? I don't know. I don't like that.

Pakistan was maybe not the greatest example (it's the worst) because as I can see they have just 1 active team, why is there anyway their country in BB..?
If country have less then 15-20 active players delete it. This 1 active guy can chose another country where to play. He can just play with bots.. sad.

But why even those countries exist on BB when they have so low number of users, 1 guy in the whole country, that's not funny to this guy, or 5-10-15 users, that's sad, I guess they would rather play in a bigger country.

Historical games - make like with a BOT team.
Users chose another country where to play.

The second team could be used for farming.

Solution: Prevent to buy a player from the country of the first team (which won't be allowed to buy a player from the country of the second team).

Example - China make deal with USA, China managers train USA players with their second club, and USA managers train China players, it's just a farm 2nd club, they don't need money, results, just buy 2 players and be a farm. Bigger countries, bigger advantage for them to farm. What is with the smaller countries..

Even if a country has 10 or 15 active managers, this doesn't mean everyone are actually "active". Maybe there are just 5 teams out of 15 that are interested enough in BB to log multiple times a week, watch a live game once in a while and maybe even post in forums.

Let the option to people chose in witch league they want to play, simple.

As long as they don't choose Bosnia, right?

There will never be a solution that suits all...

The second team won't be a problem for you in these 2 cases:
- they all play in a fictive country.
- they can only join countries with less than X users or in the X smallest countries. The managers of these countries would be allowed to have a second team in the X biggest countries. That would be dynamic.

Like the 1st suggestion, make a league for 2nd clubs and let them have fun.

The 2nd idea is not bad too, but anyway there is an advantage for bigger countries to make farms.