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279850.66 in reply to 279850.65
Date: 6/18/2016 8:56:24 PM
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Looking at the tape and not the stats. I saw a OKC team that buckled under the pressure vs golden state. Not because golden state was defending them well or anything, but because Golden State had better mental toughness than the thunder. I saw Westbrook and Durant forcing up bad shots, rather than taking time to find better shots, because on GS's offense, They kept hitting 3 after 3 after 3 after 3. And the pressure built up inside OKC that they needed to start hitting 3s as well.

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279850.67 in reply to 279850.66
Date: 6/19/2016 12:45:22 AM
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Its unfair to say that GS is a bad defensive team. There are games when they loose focus and other teams light them up, but that happens to every team. Watch their defense in crunch time, when they need to get stops. They almost always get the stops they need. That's why they rarely loose close games. They actually had the best close-game record in the league. Watch their first regular season game against Clevaland or their road win against San Antonio. GS doesn't just win high scoring shootouts, they can win ugly, physical games and play excellent defense.

When OKC had them on the hooks, GS put the clamps on them. You say Westbrook and Durant were forcing up bad shots, which is true, but alot of that has to do with GS defense making it difficult for OKC to settle into their offense. And it wasn't just Westbrook and Durant, GS was shutting down the role players who had been killing them in the early part of the series. Guys like Adams, Roberson Waiters, who came up big in OKC's wins, were shut down in Game 7. GS held OKC to under 90 pts in Game 7, which was 20 below their season average.

I agree that these last two games, their defense has been poor, but you also have to remember that they're up against one of the greatest players of all time having maybe the best finals performances ever. I expect GS to bring their A game defensively in Game 7, but with Lebron playing this well, he could still light them up.

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Date: 6/19/2016 3:03:33 AM
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Very true... But at the same time. You mentioned Andre Roberson *had* lit them up.

Roberson should not be lighting up anyone... Roberson in college was a rebounder and defender, and in the NBA he doesn't even have as much going on for him in those regards as he did in college. Robersons not a guy who'd score 20+ that often.

I'd equate it to a Ben Wallace 20+ point game, sure it can happen, but its an outlier, and if it does happen its because you screwed up somewhere.

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Date: 6/19/2016 3:06:58 AM
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The "team defense" concept of GS is "let's get so far ahead from our shooting 3s, that we force other teams to change their gameplan".



That was my comment regarding their defense unless I am mistaken?

Does this say GS is a bad defense? no.
Does it say GS is a good defense? no.

It says, that their team concept of defense, is more revolved around the "pace of play" and "playing with the lead". I believe that the tape of their play supports this.

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Date: 6/19/2016 6:54:28 PM
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Date: 6/19/2016 8:14:30 PM
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This is very long... but I'll sum up quickly


I have offered no rebuttal about Cleveland or their lack of defense, because I have personally said nothing about Cleveland or their defense.

and then my other point. Yes they have won games without Steph Curry.But they are winless without Draymond Green. One of the 3 players on their team that actually knows how to play defense.


Also... "fanboy"

Where have i come off as fan"boy"? Where have i come off as rooting for EITHER of the teams?

My comment was I expect to see the Cavs win Game 7 due to the deteorating of an already unstable GS defense.

So anyone who does not pick GS to win is a Cavs fan? Does that mean anyone who does not pick Cleveland is a Warriors fan?

Your logic here is astounding to me.

Last edited by RamenQueen at 6/19/2016 8:17:57 PM

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