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75076.66 in reply to 75076.64
Date: 2/27/2009 2:52:31 PM
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Excellent post.

Kasi, di ko naman plano solohin ung u21 management. I would find managers who know about the tactics and game engine tendencies, and those who are interested sa NT para they can help me to make the right formations at the right time. We can be like a coaching team na lahat magkakaron ng inputs on what to do.

Again, because I hate being 'safe' I would expound.

Diba after training, which happens on Fridays, makikita natin ung skill pops and game shape ng players, correct? The coaching staff could convene and talk about what tactics should be used, taking into consideration pops and game shape. This could easily be done sa YM conference or whatever chatting site.

Pero since it is Friday and everyone siguro would be out on gimmicks or dates, I would suggest doing it on Saturday during or after the league games, para lahat halos online. And para makita natin ung game shape din ng kalaban after their training sked.

I will have the final say, pero inputs would certainly be taken into consideration.

About sa player builds, mahirap to achieve unless managers would present themselves to do this, and I have no experience pa owning such players, pero I am thinking of a build like:

PG (low offensive skills, more on defense, passing, etc.)

jr - resp to strong js - resp to strong
od - sens ha - trem
dr - trem pa - wondrous
is - resp to strong

More of like a CP3 guard who can drive inside and dish out. Should be useful for a Look Inside strategy.

SF (some scoring but purely defensive inside / outside or a combination)

jr - profi js - stro
od - trem ha -
dr - pa -
is - promi id - sens
reb promi

Ron Artest build. A top defender, but can be an offensive powerhouse as well.

Again, purely speculations and skills are not exact since wala pa ako experience having those, pero this should be a start. Like I said, we can only achieve this by efficient mentoring and training ng players. Minsan lang kasi lumabas sa draft ung ganyang players with unique skill sets. And they need to be near perfection, kasi height, age, and potential din kasi need to be aligned with his starting skills.

Sayang naman kung sasabihan lang natin ung owner ng 'go, focus training mo lang yan' or 'i add ko yan sa NT list ko'. Syempre, di ko naman pipilitin ung owner to train the player on what his build should be, pero inform him lang atleast on how to maximize his player.

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This should be my last reply na muna. I refuse to be dragged into 'duh' and 'senseless' arguments na kasi.

I have a test on Wednesday and should be busy until then. Whoever wins should read my loong and comprehensive posts man lang to have a plan to start with.

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75076.67 in reply to 75076.66
Date: 2/27/2009 4:59:36 PM
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Guys, I want to announce that I am withdrawing my candidacy for this election.

It was fun, pero being a national team manager is a tedious task and I do not have the luxury of time. Anatomy sux, big time.

Ayoko lang makita na Katcha would win na naman with ease. If someone with a great plan wants to run, may time pa naman to register for the elections eh. Pwede pa.

I have outlined na the things that could be done to make the team great. Sana the winning coach would take time to read them.

To the following ppl who made this the most entertaining thread so far:

Katcha

Revenge stings like a bitch.

'Go focus train!' Seriously?

Cheri

You get my vote for your innocence.

Are you a boy, or a girl? If you happen to be a girl, chinita and maputi or is hot, don't be shy to send me a PM. :)

Devas

I feel inggit with Mabaquiao and Pinongan. I've always wanted to train guards, pero nauuwi ako sa Centers. It is not sacrifice when you can sell them for 2.5m atleast, each. :P

Norman

Hoy wag mo galingan pag ako kalaban mo! lol I wanted both you and Fil-Homes to be part of the kalabang conference para ma balance naman, kaso pareho pa kayo napunta sa amin.

Aldo

Oo may facebook ako, pero di ko inoopen.

Jubas

Nagulat ako dun sa Zatkovsky na un. Di ko napansin na may binili ka, tapos nakita ko nalang nung match na. Buti nalang naka chamba pa.

Superstar

Strong words from a newbie. ;)

Hayop

Kaw lang ung nagtanong about game engine and tactics. Dapat ma promote ka na agad soon. Basta dun ka pumunta sa kabilang conference dapat. :p

Fil-Homes

You have a player that should make the NT. Go, focus train!

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75076.68 in reply to 75076.67
Date: 2/27/2009 6:05:56 PM
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That sucks.

Yeah I guess it's not sacrifice but it's just a long long looooooooong wait.. :p Pag nabenta ko na si Pinongan next season siguro may laban na. For now magtatanim muna ako.. Got me a hotshot rookie this draft ;)

I hope you are still willing to help out sa NT.

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75076.69 in reply to 75076.67
Date: 2/27/2009 8:09:43 PM
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hehehe!!!

special surprise yun just for you!!!

kaso kinulang pa rin...nice game nga pala!!!

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6...tapos wala na...
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75076.70 in reply to 75076.67
Date: 2/27/2009 11:35:06 PM
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Too bad, you had my vote.

GM Katchafire is clueless as f.

Good luck!

Last edited by MNGR PL at 2/27/2009 11:35:54 PM

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75076.71 in reply to 75076.21
Date: 2/28/2009 3:19:51 AM
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mga kuya.!!!!!

ask lng ako kng paano nyo ma post ang player nu gamit ang knilang ID?.or paano mg lagay ng link..yun lng..salamat.

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75076.72 in reply to 75076.67
Date: 2/28/2009 4:12:30 AM
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Revenge stings like a bitch.

Yeah man, good thing i helped...

Seriously, it's been quite a ride.. it really sucks that you had to withdraw your candidacy... good luck with your studies man.. i mean it.

from supastah:
GM Katchafire is clueless as f.


all candidates are clueless on who you vote, man.

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75076.73 in reply to 75076.72
Date: 2/28/2009 6:34:09 AM
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As of this moment, meron pang 11 na candidates. Tatlo pa lang ang speeches doon sa U21 National Speeches Thread http://www2.buzzerbeater.org/BBWeb/Forum/read.aspx?thread... Where na yung iba?

Mga Chiefs, me tanong pa ako sa inyo? I believe pwede ninyo patakbohin mag-isa ang national teams natin pero siguro naman mas maganda kung meron kayong "staff" na makakatulong sa inyo tulad ng "scouting director", "tactics consultant", atbp. Ang tanong po: Kung meron kayong balak magbuo ng "staff" to help sa term ninyo bilang U21 coach, sino-sino po ang kukunin ninyo at ano po qualification nila?

Salamat.

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75076.74 in reply to 75076.67
Date: 2/28/2009 9:22:15 AM
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haha! sa sobrang desperado ko magkaron ng members, binaboy ko na facebook ko.. puro kano ang friends ko don. lahat member ng mafia ko

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75076.75 in reply to 75076.73
Date: 2/28/2009 4:32:13 PM
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It's all about dedication... as to whether how far will they have their time for the team... to those who helped me, it's been a big deal... dahil kung di dahil sa binigay nilang tulong, malamang back to start na naman tayo....

Devastator was one of the guys who made a difference in the last NT, as i've said before... if he has the time, i would be honored to work with him and Norman Black again... LA-Ubaldo said that he hasn't got the time... so ok lang... I'm sure na hindi niya matitiis ^_^

We still need more personnel with regards nman sa pagiimbestiga sa mga teams na kakalabanin... although i would be the one who would look on their tactics and status of their players, i still need to hear others' opinions.. that's why i would be looking for an in-depth analyst as to what tactic is he going to use, and what mindset is he going to be in... a number of people comes to my mind... Hayop, with his deep understanding in the game engine and rules, LA-Jubas, with his knowledge in defense, I'm sure na we could come up with a good plan para madiskartehan ang mga bigatin na teams tulad ng china, malaysia, at australia... among others.

And of course, the decision is based upon knowing on the managers for a long time, but i'm not closing the door just yet... I'm sure na mayroon pang ibang managers na recently lang naging active and they would want to help the NT... kaya all comments, suggestions, at inputs would be much appreciated... mas gusto ko din na nagkakaisa ang community para din maging matibay ang ating team at makilala ang bansa with regards to this. Some country's communities are solid when it comes to raising the level of our NT's... so we should be as well... Pinoy tayo eh... magpapatalo ba tayo?

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75076.76 in reply to 75076.75
Date: 3/1/2009 6:04:51 AM
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We still need more personnel with regards nman sa pagiimbestiga sa mga teams na kakalabanin


pasingit lang po. in my opinion through reading this thread, regardless kung sino man ang manalong U21 coach, malaking tulong talaga na merong assistant staff to support the manager and make his job easier. kahit in real life hindi magagawa ng isang coach na mapa-champion ang isang team ng mag-isa lang sya. malaking factor talaga ang isang matatag na coaching staff.

suggestion lang GM-Katcha, ano kaya kung magkaroon ang NT ng thread na open para mag-palista ang mga managers na gustong tumulong sa NT? in that way malalaman natin kung sino-sino talaga ang willing tumulong sa ating NT. voluntary naman sya eh, para sa mga willing lang talaga na mag-sacrifice ng kanilang time and effort para sa bansa. syempre may mentality din ang ibang tao na "bakit naman ako tutulong? ano naman ang makukuha ko dyan? eh di kawawa naman ang team ko?" kaya para lang talaga sa mga willing.

siguro mas madali para sa coach to work with a few people lang lalo na kung ang mga taong yun ay yung mga beterano na sa BB. pero may maitutulong din ang mga gaya naming baguhan na mga managers gaya ng pag-scout ng mga eligible players sa aming mga respective leagues. pwede naming tanungin yung mga co-managers namin kung pwede ba nila i-train yung players nila para sa national team, then point them to the experts to help them with their training. gaya nga ng mga nasabi sa thread na 'to, kailangan natin ng better guards para sa ating NT so malaking tulong din kung masasala natin lahat ng mga prospect guards sa bawat league. then pwede siguro gumawa ang staff ng database outside the BB site na sila lang ang may access gaya nga ng sabi ni sir Deva.

marami pang ways actually para ma-utilize ang manpower as the coach deems fit. (ex. scouting the NT threads of other countries, looking for u21 pinoys with potential from other teams in other countries, etc..)
it's really up to the coach pero ang mahalaga is meron syang manpower to utilize. hope this helps in any way..

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