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From: DangerJ
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Date: 8/6/2009 4:13:22 PM
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The 3 min time ext has killed me this week.... "thumbs down" to that.

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100172.68 in reply to 100172.67
Date: 8/7/2009 5:20:43 AM
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SIMPLE WAY TO FIX THIS DEBATE-

Give the seller an option on how their auction goes.

Option #1 current system, or the 'standard' option.

Option #2 Seller set's a 'Buy-out' option. This is a large sum that they will accept a immediate sail of their player for that amount. So lets say they set the min bid for 2000 and the buyout for 10000. You can bid and hope to get the player cheap or buy him now for 10000. otherwise the bidding process works like option #1.

Option #3 The max value option. The auction is for 1 week with a 1 week extension everytime the bid is updated. In this case you have 1 week to go in look at a player and make a bid if the current bid is in your price range.

Option #1 is for your average seller who wants to make money, but relatively soon (they are determined to get rid of said player).

Option #2 is for sellers who just want to get rid of the player as fast as possible.

Option #3 is for sellers who only want to sell their player for exactly what he is worth.

Buyers will love browsing the option 2s, rarely consider option #1s and respect the option 3s.

Great players will be sold via option 3 fairly. Lebron James would be an option 3 sale.

Like in the NBA or any other major professional sports league players of different values are handled differently and the amount of effort put into selling and buying them is different.

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From: Kukoc

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100172.69 in reply to 100172.68
Date: 8/7/2009 5:25:25 AM
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The bidding system atm is fine. Nothing you have proposed will make it better, it will make it chaotic.

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100172.70 in reply to 100172.69
Date: 8/7/2009 8:21:44 AM
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exactly bidding system is fine... stop trying to adapt the game to you , you should adapt to the game

From: Kukoc
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100172.71 in reply to 100172.70
Date: 8/7/2009 9:27:51 AM
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Not that it needs to be mentioned. With instant transfers etc. You could check youre opponents team 1h before the match and end up playing another roster all together:D I will "loan" some great players for that one match, sell them back to them after the match and noone will notice. Hell I don't even have to pay salaries.
I urge everyone to think a week about theyr suggestions before posting one. You need to put the ups and downs on the paper. If the suggestion still seems decent after a week of pondering about it, then be my guest and post it.

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100172.72 in reply to 100172.68
Date: 8/7/2009 10:38:52 AM
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These will not happen - it makes cheating too easy.

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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100172.73 in reply to 100172.68
Date: 8/7/2009 11:18:29 AM
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Nobody can accept that - it would make buying players too confusing.

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100172.75 in reply to 100172.71
Date: 8/7/2009 9:39:07 PM
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Did you ponder this ridiculous suggestion for a week before posting it?

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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100172.76 in reply to 100172.75
Date: 8/7/2009 10:20:33 PM
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You seem to have superhuman strength, when reading english is considered! ;)

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100172.77 in reply to 100172.76
Date: 8/8/2009 5:37:28 AM
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LOL,
Just throwing intelligent ideas outthere, not trying to talk to trolls.

Large economy games use variable auction systems which give the sellers an option of placing or not placing a buyout. They also give sellers the option of altering the length of the auction.

Its weird though in this game you can bid on your own auction, something not allowed usually.

It would not make the system chaotic. Adding a buyout figure to some auctions is not confusing. OK I must admit some of you are probably complete morons and can't understand the idea of a buyout. Unfortunate for you.

None of that would make cheating any easier. If they buyout is above or below the players natural value the system would pick it up, besides which with the current limit on the number of transfers you can do in a given time frame before fees get ludicrus... Cheating via transfers seems pretty impossible now.

People would need to #1 trick the system into giving them a bunch of multiple accounts (I'm sure people if diligent enough can get this done) Then they would need to just farm players out of those teams to whichever their flagship team is, but all at relatively decent value and spread out over a large range of time. Even if someone went through the trouble of cheating at that level the amount of benefit they get form it seems so minimal it aint even worth worrying about.

Seriously though if you are worried about cheaters go find some and report them to the admins, if admins don't move start a thread for report people you think are cheating via multiple accounts. Just post both teams and show the large number of transfers between them that are shady.

honestly I haven't seen any sings of cheating, I haven't lookd for it though. My limited information opinion is that there are little to no actively cheating multi-accounters in this game.

The system is not fine the way it is. There are times when auctions are lucritive and not based on volume of users at a given hour.

People who work etc. during peak or offpeak hours, as well as people who don't want to spend all day watching the transfer list are at a HUGE disadvantage to folks who could check the transfers every few hours.

Bids only updating 3 minutes with a bid doesn't really help create a bid war that includes all buzzerbeater players. It only includes people in that time zone in that hour. For any auction to include every player in the game the amount of time you need to give someone to look at it is atleast 1 week. Seriously.

Of course if EVERY auction took several weeks to complete it would make roster upgrading very time consuming, which wont work with the relatively short season lengths. If it took 2-3weeks to move ANY player than you'd need like a month to set up which eats up to much of the season.

That is why there should be an option for buyouts and quicker 3-day options for less valuable players.

And stuff.

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