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The end of the month is close, and I would like to know if the cap for the courtside sead and luxury boxes will be applied as announced, because we have to adjust prices accordingly.
Although the News was clear, it was also clear that the cap was going to be applied for new constructions and it is not the case. That's why I would like to have this clarified.

Thanks.

The end of the month is close, and I would like to know if the cap for the courtside sead and luxury boxes will be applied as announced, because we have to adjust prices accordingly.
Although the News was clear, it was also clear that the cap was going to be applied for new constructions and it is not the case. That's why I would like to have this clarified.

Thanks.

and what are the possibilities to react on this system, like promised.

Or did we get those individual salary "reduction" the BB talked about, when saying that team income is unimportant because the economy is self regulating.

PS: making arena more realistic, the "name" of a categorys is the less unrealistic think - why are 5 rows courtside but not 6? The question is, why they cost more to build when they are the same seats but just closer to the court, how you could put 5000 extra seats into an already built arena etc.

I hope this is still going ahead because I just made an expansion today based on the fact that my courtside seats will be disappearing at the allstar break.

I hope this is still going ahead because I just made an expansion today based on the fact that my courtside seats will be disappearing at the allstar break.

i agree with it, they missed the point, where they can reverse those silly change but a redesign chanche for the affected user would be fine(and that are lot more then affected, because the overall arena distribution plans could be changed, because many user could choose a higher amount of bleachers like me to get fast to the 20k and with fewer expensiv seats, you could had bin at those place with cheap places).

But this change is very bad and in my eyes, implemented without thinking about it.

Maybe a time to get the rigth ticket prices would be fine, also because you had to check out the possibilitys again under an other impression.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 1/27/2010 10:51:22 AM

i agree with it, they missed the point,

Maybe, but if they were going to make different plans I assume they would have announced them by now to give users a chance to react. Either that, or they need to allow users to deconstruct as they please until they decide where they are going with this.

anyway it would be nice to know when and how we gonna get the money, as i need to buy a big man and i would like to understand if i can count on an additional million to spend next week, or not.
i already asked that question twice in this thread, one of those being the very opening post, and never got an answer about the timing. nobody cared about me :(
i hope that the third time is the right one :)

I been reading this thread a long time now, without saying anything. I just had enough. How can you whine about this minor change? You are not even maxed out with your courside prices. Changing the price will give you exactly the same income -> maybe even more. Whenever any change comes people go for the most unrealistic things that they can imagine. Those things will be found and eventually get fixed. If players realized that the attendance "cap" is at 20k. People started to build more courtsides and luxury boxes -> eventually that would make 10000 courtside seats and 1000 luxury boxes. Leaving ~9000 places for those two cheaper prices seats. BB-s saw that trend happening so they wanted to stop it before it got out of hand. We can all agree that that kind of arena setup would be really bogus. Arenas are mostly made of bleachers and that's how it should be.
Now this change affects really small number of users. Yes they are all successful teams and powerful teams. Many of which are not actually affected (like you -> reasons: price change, income gathered from those seats while they were in effect + getting all the construction money back).

I been reading this thread a long time now, without saying anything. I just had enough. How can you whine about this minor change?

because the direction they want to fix was clear like the first change, and i am pretty sure that they would be able that the first arena formula won't give them 20k arenas. Thats thing you could easily calculate, when you know the sth limit of the top clubs.
And they are warned.

You are not even maxed out with your courside prices

yeah because i was still in deconstruction, at the end of last season and then i had to make a big deconstruction because time was running out ... last season was only build expensiv seats, and deconstruct a few cheap seats to react on the changed they made. This cost me some million, becuase of the missing time and the progressing of the money.

Now they punish me forever, which is pretty fine and have to do with planing.

Changing the price will give you exactly the same income -> maybe even more.

if this was the case, more expensiv seats won't be a problem ;) I don't want to max them out, i want to go for maximum visitor on the more expensiv seats, and max the prices out in the silly to have seats - thats was the plan. Maxing out prices uncapped, lowers your income and not increased it.

People started to build more courtsides and luxury boxes -> eventually that would make 10000 courtside seats and 1000 luxury boxes. Leaving ~9000 places for those two cheaper prices seats. BB-s saw that trend happening so they wanted to stop it before it got out of hand. We can all agree that that kind of arena setup would be really bogus. Arenas are mostly made of bleachers and that's how it should be.

then why they don't watch for it, when it was time? And why are 500 courtside seats ok, but the 501 wasn't courtside anymore? Normally you pay Cat. 1-X with different prices, and not courtside etc. ok the VIP places are often called like their function, but in europe that aren't thoses boxes they are mostly like conference room with a view for the game(so also the expensiv coast are explained)/maybe more luxury seats would explain the other fdifferences too.

Now this change affects really small number of users.

I could believe that a lot of people will regret it, who actually had more then 8k bleachers, with the old distribution this won't be that bad, and probadly better because you reach the 20k earlier and can put more money on few seats.

Many of which are not actually affected (like you -> reasons: price change, income gathered from those seats while they were in effect + getting all the construction money back).

I am affected through it, when other managers have better contributions then me, because they get more money then me - and that is no planning error on my side.

The other point is that you had before that, the possibility to rule out a good individual contribution for you and your team, now you should go for a standard configuration and could call the seats just "seats", which would make building even more realistic and don't promise you flexibility at thsi point.

I can't understand what you wanted to mean in your first responce. Perhaps you could formulate youre sentences a little.
What the hell is this, now they punish me forever??? LOL? Make smaller constructions/deconstructions. This game tends to change from time to time. No need to deconstruct something that takes you 1 season.
You want more seats. BB-s want 500 courtside seats. Because they think it 500 fits more with that 20k "cap". Set a price that sells those 500.
They changed it when they noticed it would be a problem. What? They can not change the game around? No more free agents. Let those prices rise? No new game engines? Change is good when it has a reason behind it. This seat cap has!
You are 1 out of 50000. This change is good for the game. What was the number? 100 managers were affected? I think atleast 50% of those do not care and adapt. You could try that aswell - without doing some radical arena rebuilding. Do not make constructions that last a season or 2. Perhaps you could build on weekly basis.

You want more seats. BB-s want 500 courtside seats. Because they think it 500 fits more with that 20k "cap". Set a price that sells those 500.

BB wanted something around 2000 thousand, because they designed it so, they also raised this number one season before. But instead if saying in those 14 weeks, sorry we made soemthing wrong we react on it next season, they see the problem for more then 14 weeks to change it one day after you can not react to it anymore(i think i mention it first a half season before they change it - which they read and which made those cap propose idiotic and not pretty popular, even before they made it instead of designing fan numbers who fit to the desired size of the arena).

They choose to raise the importance of courtside, and the number of courtside seats you could sell, while implemting it and now they make more then a stepback after most player adjust to this change.

What the hell is this, now they punish me forever??? LOL? Make smaller constructions/deconstructions.

there are none, and personal i believe that more seats then the cap could also cost seats, in the expensiv areas. I paid for 5k seats for example i never used(only a half seasoN), and who cost me in future money.

They say this game is about planing and thinking ahead, but they now changed a part of the game to punish players who are planning and thinking ahead for making the rigth decision - and why? this time they make it for nothing, because the effect of the arena is unimportant like the BB said they just wanted to change it ... So they punish lot of users 2 times, for planing and thinking ahead. Such is frustrating and makes me angry thats why i try to make it public.

Change is good when it has a reason behind it.

Points who makes this silly:

- seats disappear

- you can not react

- good planning is punished

- it is more unrealisitic, because it is just a term with 500 courtside seats the seats aren't courtside too

- difference prices of the seats, are now unlogic because it didn't reflect the quality of the seat, and just the position(seats lower to the ground are normally cheaper)

-arena expansion is still unlogic(but i hope it stays), because you nomarlly can not expand a arena - in stead you should buy a new one.

- they say it themself that it isn't necessary, and changenotthing in the globak economic


- unrealtistic

- less flexibility in building

Pro change:

- they pronounced, and first regret it three days after but then they won't change it back because people already could plan with it ... Sorry the time before was much longer, and we don't get an escape plan for this crap. But ok is it a pro argument i understand, because it shows how improtant planning is.