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124038.67 in reply to 124038.66
Date: 12/22/2009 10:57:52 AM
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If you think any manager will pay for site which be broken for week in every 4 months with same reason, you are sadly mistaken.


Since that is not even close to the truth, I have no idea what you are referring to.

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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124038.68 in reply to 124038.65
Date: 12/22/2009 11:11:57 AM
BC Hostivař
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I had a look for example at Sharman Globetrotters today's game and it looks like his attendance is quite ok.

But it still doesn't mean that Saturday recalculation is ok and maybe some teams should get money back. (2 of them are my best rivals in Czech rep., but I don't want to enlarge gap between us.)
I suggest following:
Do simulation of calculation by code you used for last fixing of Saturday's game for example for team Flumpaci:
1) calculation for present stadium and all other inputs as it's for this team (fan survey, ticket prices, opponent, season ticket holders etc.)
2) then calculate for stadium which has 2000 bleachers lower (so number of seats would be 16000, 1800, 450, 20, total capacity 18270), all other inputs as in example 1)

If there is random factor in formula, repeat simulation for example 10-times for each example to lower random factor.
Than compare results (or average results) for both examples.
If results for example 2) are higher than results for example 1) then probably last fixing wouldn't be ok.

From: zafman
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124038.69 in reply to 124038.68
Date: 12/22/2009 12:10:12 PM
Pahalammen Pomppu
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I have waited patiently that this bug is solved but seems that my pectartors are still wrong.

19.12.2009 SPTS 9777 2004 417 19 12217 This seasons first game
24.11.2009 SPTS 15500 2116 400 19 18035 Last season 2nd last series game
Same time hc-team against KPP
19.12.2009 KoriPullo-Pojat 15700 2700 450 20 18870 full stadium

Same team same prices but bigger arena.I was Finalist and SPTS league 5th. KPP Big Eight finalist and hc-team 4th.

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124038.70 in reply to 124038.69
Date: 12/22/2009 12:31:24 PM
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NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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124038.71 in reply to 124038.70
Date: 12/22/2009 12:37:49 PM
Pahalammen Pomppu
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Aaa... how could I miss that. Have to wait little more. Thanks :)

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124038.72 in reply to 124038.69
Date: 12/22/2009 2:01:19 PM
1986 Celtics
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i've looked into your specific case, your fans are not that happy and your prices are high, and so your attendance isn't amazing. So I think if those two inputs are correct, you got the right number of fans showing up. If there is a problem then, its because your fan survey is messed up, or you changed your prices to start this season.

there might be a bug with the fan survey, but that would be a different bug and so you need to make a case to me that your fan survey has changed in a way that doesn't make sense.

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124038.73 in reply to 124038.63
Date: 12/22/2009 2:06:03 PM
1986 Celtics
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i've also looked into your case, and your fans are really really unhappy. I don't know whether that is justified or not, but the attendance formula is working as designed in your case... meaning given how happy your fans are, what team you are playing, what your prices are etc.. the right number of people are showing up. If there is a bug with you its that the fans should be happier than they are, which is a separate issue...

in other words, with the correct formula in there for todays games, i suspect that you will get a similar number of people showing up.

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124038.74 in reply to 124038.66
Date: 12/22/2009 2:10:51 PM
1986 Celtics
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so i've discovered that your formula doesn't make sense, i've found a loophole that your team was falling through in my fix code. I've rerun the code and you should now have ~16K. This probably boosted revenues for a subset of the teams affected (there are 205 total teams affected by this bug.. the original bug)

Last edited by BB-Forrest at 12/22/2009 2:20:23 PM

From: bik_76
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124038.75 in reply to 124038.74
Date: 12/22/2009 2:16:42 PM
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Thanks.

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124038.76 in reply to 124038.74
Date: 12/22/2009 2:28:56 PM
Flumpaci
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Flumpaci Utopia
Did you rerun formula for all affected team again today?
Because my Saturday's attendance still doesn't look to be correct (as rwystyrk mentioned few hours ago).

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124038.77 in reply to 124038.73
Date: 12/22/2009 2:40:10 PM
Brezel Speyer
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Thanks for looking at my case.
Still I think there must be a bug. Fan Survey had >= 2.5 balls in total before Saturday's games (and today there are 3.5 balls).
I don't think 2.5 balls corresponds to really really unhappy?!
No other team in my league had such a drop in spectators.

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