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86131.67 in reply to 86131.62
Date: 4/17/2009 3:32:51 PM
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Thanks for the feedback everyone, clearly although I didnt intend to lower the OD rating, somehow something we did seemed to have a dramatic effect so I will look into that and have it adjusted for next week. This is exactly why we released it in this manner so we can get it right before it goes on games that matter.


(12705004)

the tsv bogen plays with weak outside defenders on PG and SG(i believe the PG has an 4, and his 2cd SG with 23 patz have an one in OD) and gets pretty good rating - many this could helps you in finding a solution

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86131.68 in reply to 86131.67
Date: 4/17/2009 4:53:09 PM
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quick question on defense algorithm...
I've been focusing on players at every position that have decent outside and inside defense... with the new game engine that uses the location of the shot to decide the defender, it just seems to me that my strategy is a bad one...
meaning I should instead go for the PG and SG with extremely high OD and atrocious ID, and the PF and C with atrocious OD but extremely high ID... just wondering if I misunderstood how defense work in the new engine?



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86131.69 in reply to 86131.67
Date: 4/17/2009 4:58:33 PM
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Another case of a Look Inside that seemed like Push the Ball:

(12705951)

A total of 27 attempts from the 3-point area by an offense that looked inside.

And it seemed the guards got the bulk of these attempts. My 3 guards combined attempt is 56 of the teams 104. Im seeing less Inside Shots here.

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86131.70 in reply to 86131.69
Date: 4/17/2009 4:59:52 PM
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I'm wondering if the lowered OD is causing more outside shots to be taken regardless of offense used.

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86131.71 in reply to 86131.70
Date: 4/17/2009 5:08:32 PM
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Perhaps there might be a connection there. But if the OD is lowered, should it also be possible for my Guards to easily pass inside? Yet instead of pounding inside, they chose to snipe outside.

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86131.72 in reply to 86131.71
Date: 4/17/2009 5:23:02 PM
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it is some kind of discission making before the shot, how high are the chanches that i finish this shot and how good that the guy who gets the pass finish it ;)

So when the OD is low, normally he say i could make this shot instead of tryining a pass to get a weaker or as good shot oppurnity with the risk of a TO or timetrouble.

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86131.73 in reply to 86131.72
Date: 4/17/2009 5:34:19 PM
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Meaning it defeats the tactics of setting the offense to Look Inside. The guard will make the play according to his dicission. Well, more like a basketball game in real life. Teams in the real world rarely use Look Inside the entire game.

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86131.74 in reply to 86131.73
Date: 4/17/2009 5:42:28 PM
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yeah but if you play and outside tactics, he will get even better shots :)

Because with LI in the offense you have a a bonus on inside shots and a malus on outside shots, so normally this leads to a set play for the big guys or cuttting guards. But due such extreme ratings, it will sometimes look like the opposite.

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86131.75 in reply to 86131.74
Date: 4/17/2009 5:46:39 PM
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Anybody seen a Run and Gun offense pitted against a 2-3 zone defense?

Just want to see how the RAG fares with low perimeter defense of the new GE.

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86131.76 in reply to 86131.75
Date: 4/17/2009 6:03:10 PM
MightyMice
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Interesting comparison of two matches played almost in the same way.

(12703246) and (12614712)

both push the ball + man, away, same TS (just some decimals I guess, but one day after the other), couple of changes in GS. And my SG fouled out after 23 minutes, but his rotation was not much higher in OD (just decimals), and is much lower in ID.

In the first (friendly, new GE), apart of the ASG-like score, the crazy "pitiful" OD was the same for my team and my opponent's - but we shared individual OD skills and mine were much much higher!

If my defense with plenty of respectables and above gets the same "pitiful" evaluation than another with all players with skills far below 5-6, I will never train OD....

In the second (LP, old GE), look at evaluations and compare them with previous match.

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86131.77 in reply to 86131.75
Date: 4/17/2009 6:04:11 PM
Overall Posts Rated:
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This (12708080)?

Anything strange here?

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