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or that :) lol

well... it definitely will screw my left click mouse button's life span up!!!

ahha...luck you put /sarcasm

otherwise some random dunce will prob flame you for being a dunce... lol

I'd say get a smart phone D:

heh!

and do you have space for a tag-along-wannabe-malaysian in your luggage? =P

I am really scared. If the list isn't up in the next 45 minutes it means that I won't have enough time to edit the list before the draft happens on June 28th. I will have only 13 days! My spread sheets and algorithms are so complex that having anything less than a full 336 hours to evaluate my imaginary draft prospects puts my entire draft plan in jeopardy and ruined my entire summer.

I don't understand how the servers hosting a massive multiplayer game where 99% of the managers don't pay a cent to play are struggling to process the creation of tens of thousands of new imaginary players from scratch while also accommodating high volume message boards and the simulation of a hundred or so national team games which include live chats. Who is running this updating effort, British Petroleum? I demand justice!

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Everyone chill out. This has less than zero negative consequences for you, your real life or your (most likely free) imaginary basketball team.

We will still have 13 days to edit the order and we're all going to be royally disappointed about the quality of our draft picks anyway.

It makes no sense to say it will be released on one day, and then either wait til the last possible moment, or the next day, its obviously going to be an event in the season that players are anxious to see. I don't care if they said it was coming out on the 20th at 12:00, but just try to meet that time. It just makes business sense to meet deadlines, particularly arbitrary ones they set well in advance. If its difficult for the servers to process it, then have the lists released at a more manageable date, unless there were unforeseen circumstances in which case provide better communication. And for some reason, I think of this as a business as opposed to the BB's doing this out of the goodness of their hearts to 99% of us lowly non-supporters who should be grateful for whatever they provide.

Sorry, as a non-supporter I should probably stop using the high volume message boards now.

I don't see the reason for differentiating supports / non-supporters.

As you can see, we're ALL waiting for the draft mate.

edit:

- The draft happens during the off-season processing on Monday night, but it may take until Tuesday before the process is finished.

- The creation of the draft lists is a very resource-intensive process, so you might not find your draft list available exactly on Monday.


shrugs. not like they didn't say it might be later :P

Last edited by Simply Vince at 6/15/2010 12:09:44 AM

I hate to prolong this mess, but:

It makes no sense to say it will be released on one day, and then either wait til the last possible moment, or the next day, its obviously going to be an event in the season that players are anxious to see. I don't care if they said it was coming out on the 20th at 12:00, but just try to meet that time. It just makes business sense to meet deadlines, particularly arbitrary ones they set well in advance. If its difficult for the servers to process it, then have the lists released at a more manageable date, unless there were unforeseen circumstances in which case provide better communication. And for some reason, I think of this as a business as opposed to the BB's doing this out of the goodness of their hearts to 99% of us lowly non-supporters who should be grateful for whatever they provide.

Sorry, as a non-supporter I should probably stop using the high volume message boards now.

1) They explicitly said that this is a server intensive process and that they lists may not be available until after Monday in the stickied post. It's pretty clear.

2) My point about people not paying for it is that server space is in many ways limited by how much money they have to reinvest into infrastructure. The reason why many MMOGs run smoothly is because they charge high monthly fees to both make a profit and to handle the server load. Many other sports games just completely shut down for long periods of time while processing is happening. So given the four choices of:
(a) making everyone who plays pay
(b) have long periods of downtime during processing of major game components
(c) a drastic reduction in features like in game chat, message boards, national teams, etc.
(d) slightly longer processing time on things that have no direct impact on game play

I would certainly pick D. You can't get everything without giving something up and I am really, really glad that the developers have chosen to go with D in order to continue to make a high quality game that is mostly free to the vast majority of users.

That's all I was getting at. I wasn't saying supporters are more worthy or anything dumb like that. I was pointing out that the fact that they've chosen to make the game (which is laden with features) mostly free comes with some limitations. One of which is that some processing takes awhile.

(For the record: I wasn't a supporter for a long time, one of the reasons I bought it was because I wanted to reward the developers for treating supporters almost the exact same as free players which is not the case with most games like this.)

Last edited by chris902 at 6/15/2010 12:30:47 AM

I would certainly pick D. You can't get everything without giving something up and I am really, really glad that the developers have chosen to go with C in order to continue to make a high quality game that is mostly free to the vast majority of users.

think u meant D not C.

other then that well said.

Off-topic:
Just because they don't charge you to play doesn't necessarily mean they aren't making money from you. Notice the ads in the top and side windows? They are making money off those. I would hazard a guess and say the bulk of their income is from advertising, not from supporter fees (I am saying this based on other free services that make a huge amount of money such as facebook). Supporter or not, the players of this game are helping generate income and are hence valid customers and have a right to complain or comment about things that are not to their satisfaction without having "this is a free game, deal with it or stfu" thrown in their face.

On-topic:
They did say that the draft would begin processing on monday. No promises on when it would be finished. Until then, back to refreshing my draft screen...click....

think u meant D not C.

other then that well said.

Yes.. thanks for catching that. (and in particular thanks for catching that before someone who disagrees with me caught it)


Anyway, I am done with this as it's become an argument that I never meant to start. I'm not going to respond to this thread anymore.