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I'll pass on this one, and as I stated before, he has been regularly put on the TL for unrealistic amount, so maybe it is wise to let the price drop a little more.

Jumping into the conversation :p

@AZ : what's wrong with Marichal ? He's a fine player, unfortunately his JS is a little too high, but all in all he's great. and you sold him for 3 M back then which was great if I reacll correctly ...

i agree. but i spent 2.4M to acquire him so i didn't win a lot and i demoted on purpose to train him out of position on the C to get his secundairy skills to that lvl. So even tho i got a nice amount of cash for it, he wasn't worth that investment on the long run. atleast not for my team.... He's a great player, one of our few guards who can play regardless of the tactic. But the investment i made to get him to that point only to sell him because i ended 8th despite having 10 wins that season was really painfull.

About Crauwels : Joe is right, he's NT material. He has been regularly on sale this season for over 5 M, so I never bothered linking him so far, but 3 M is becoming more in line. Anyway he still requires a good amount of training, I doubt he would be ready before his 29.


Yes, it's a good player AND he's Belgian, BUT i find the price really excessive relative to his qualities and age.
Furthermore, the owner only paid 850k for him, so he hits a home run when selling him for that price.
For a lower price i would be interested, but at this price i'm not.
Because i always have managed my team in a healthy financial way, and won't give that much money to this player all of a sudden. I'm not the kind of manager to pay crazy prices...

And i don't think anyone will pay that amount for him, but that remains to be seen of course... only my opinion

Their is GM info regarding that team. i can't dive into specifics but even the GM's are waiting for him to sell that player. Especially Bradok will be happy to know that GM's are keeping an eye on him after his past experiences with that same manager.

And Crauwels is NT material. But it would take a while and i doubt a BBBL team could make that kinda of investment without seriously having a good team around him. otherwise he could easely cost a demotion for a team...

Their is GM info regarding that team. i can't dive into specifics but even the GM's are waiting for him to sell that player. Especially Bradok will be happy to know that GM's are keeping an eye on him after his past experiences with that same manager.

Hey AthrunZala,

Why are the GM's waiting for him to sell that player ?
What is the problem with this manager, has he been doing suspicious transfers in the past ?

Last edited by Eagle at 11/1/2014 8:50:46 PM

What would you say is a reasonable price for this particular player ?

ok, i was thinking of 2M

Hey AthrunZala,

Why are the GM's waiting for him to sell that player ?
What is the problem with this manager, has he been doing suspicious transfers in the past ?

I don't think AZ will tell more, I don't think he will discuss GM stuff here is allowed :s

Very nice to see much more life around here, it's very pleasant :) Hope it stays that way.

Speaking of the competition, seems the "Big 3" on the red side is already digging in a serious advance, while things seem mure more tense on the other conference.

Bradok, don't you regret scheduling your rebuild now ? It seemed like the perfect time to fight for the BBBL spot ...

And I had tipped FTA as possible outsiders, they're giving me right so far !

Today I received a reply from the Czech manager and since we talked about it, I wanted to share it:

> Hi,
> Most of the things I can tell you are logical things, but still very important:
> - Make sure your arena is big enough: your income must be high enough: money is everything
> - Try to have players from your own country: it gives bonus money from your fans
> - Look for multiskill players: one of my searches i always do to check for a player on the transfer markt is a player that has at least 5 in all skills.
> - Don't forget to keep on training your players

Hi,
- I started small extension of area
- this is really super advice about nationality of players (from now I will buy only Slovak players)
- why are multiskill player better than normal player?
- training - currently I train especially PG position (I am trying to catch 48 min/week with 3 players), but after team rebuild it will be not possible...what are you training ? do you have some strategy for training?
Thank you one more time!
Milosh

Look especially at my second advice :p
I suggest you all give this advice to foreign managers ;)

Setting up the path for future purchases I see xD

I don't think AZ will tell more, I don't think he will discuss GM stuff here is allowed :s

Very nice to see much more life around here, it's very pleasant :) Hope it stays that way.

Speaking of the competition, seems the "Big 3" on the red side is already digging in a serious advance, while things seem mure more tense on the other conference.

Bradok, don't you regret scheduling your rebuild now ? It seemed like the perfect time to fight for the BBBL spot ...

And I had tipped FTA as possible outsiders, they're giving me right so far !

i am not allowed to discuss his past. However that owner has caused some major damage to some former and current BBBL managers and since i didn't want to mail them specifically i made a little post to assure them that he's being monitored very closely.

that is all the information you will receive from me at this time.

concerning his price, GM's think differently than normal managers. each situation is unique in it's own right


if you were to ask me about his price, the first thing i do is look for simular players. Now since i can't post links of names (because it is considered advertising while they are on the TL) i'll just post their skills.

i got one player: potential superstar, 60k salary. skillset: 14/12/17/17/17/10 10/7/8/6, 26y old. current price: 1.4M, no bids
second player: MVP, 140k, skillset: 16/12/16/17/17/16 9/9/5/7, 27y old. current price: 1.6M, no bids

Now Crauwels has some things going for him. Both nationalities of the players are from larger countries where as Crauwels is considered from a mid size community nation. Meaning that his chances of NT are slightely higher, giving him some extra room to manouvre with. However potential doesn't mean that he'll make it.

Also, if their is a bidding war, that is also a factor that is taken into account. had Crawels been from Spain, his value would be 1.5M, the fact that he's Belgian and that Belgian teams bid agressively for their own nationality means his value goes up (probably up to 2M). should a bidding war arise, then his value goes up a bitt too (after checking the potential link between the bidders are the original seller ofcourse).

And last but not least. Time of the season where he is sold also is taken into account.


those are just a couple of things that GM's have to consider when deciding if a price is fair or not (there are still unmentioned factors, but the ones i gave you are the ones that you should have considered logical). Ofcourse, we don't review each trade. only the ones we find highly suspicious or the ones that are reported to use from the community.

If anyone were to ask me what Crauwels would be worth, i'd say max 2M. maybe some more should he get into a bidding war. But 2.5M is a stretch for me unless if he fits perfectly for your training schedule. anything above that could be considered over the top.


as for Bradok: he's guaranteed to play at the very least a regulation game. rebuilding is good then. he can focus an entire season on training and could add some cheap old reinforcements for the end of the season to stay in the BBBL. if their ever was a time to do so, then now is that time. He probably could get a better draft than the 8th team on the red side if he wishes for it.

Last edited by AthrunZala at 11/3/2014 5:37:50 AM