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S34 Salary floor increase: Comedy or drama?

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Date: 2/23/2016 5:41:31 AM
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After your arena expansion you'll probably still sell out courtside and lower tier, you can do the math on how much $ that is. For bleachers you need to monitor the overall attendance in the next few games.

Truth to be told you have not maximised the income from your arena. That should be your first priority. Besides you have another 7 weeks at no cap, if I'm not mistaken. You will make quite a bit of money before you need to pay the floor and you will be able to easily afford a lvl 4 trainer and further arena expansions.

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Date: 2/23/2016 5:47:04 AM
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Yes and I think most people were in favour of changing the fan survey to do that, but then people disagreed on what would constitute 'tanking'. More importantly changing the fan survey to cut into the tanking teams' earnings is not as easy as changing the values in the salary floor calculation.

That said, D1 in decently sized nations did indeed need a higher floor, irrespective of fan survey changes because the differences were simply too much. When you have 3-4 teams at 300k-350k or so and the rest at 600k or more it's not so much fun and you can understand how much difference it makes to earnings. To add insult to injury one of these teams, with the money from tanking, bought players before the playoffs and won a relegation series, imagine that...

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Date: 2/23/2016 6:39:15 AM
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Yes and I think most people were in favour of changing the fan survey to do that, but then people disagreed on what would constitute 'tanking'. More importantly changing the fan survey to cut into the tanking teams' earnings is not as easy as changing the values in the salary floor calculation.

That said, D1 in decently sized nations did indeed need a higher floor, irrespective of fan survey changes because the differences were simply too much. When you have 3-4 teams at 300k-350k or so and the rest at 600k or more it's not so much fun and you can understand how much difference it makes to earnings. To add insult to injury one of these teams, with the money from tanking, bought players before the playoffs and won a relegation series, imagine that...


In order to counter the reluctancy to mess(technically) with the fan survey, there were proposals that didn't have anything to do with it..
Once a week, during the economy update there could be a calculation run(like the overextension tax does) that would deal with tanking, by reducing (percent of)that week's TV income, based on the parameters calculated.
Pretty simple math required, provisions for all worries of injustice and levels of penalties can be included.

The answers were like "nice, but can't code it"...then Utopia was born...!!!!!

"Where there is will, there is a way"... and after so many different proposals and so many different denials,all these years, i tend to believe that the answer may just be that they simply don't want it changed.

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Date: 2/23/2016 6:46:42 AM
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Fundamentally very little was added with Utopia. Changing fan survey or finding a way to identify tankers, is more complex.

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Date: 2/23/2016 7:05:31 AM
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My point was that there were proposals that didn't have the workload of making Utopia, nor the complexity of tweaking with fan survey.
Needed just understanding of simple differential equations and will to make a change.




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Date: 2/23/2016 7:24:02 AM
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It is in Marin's drawer, i don't have the keys!


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Date: 2/23/2016 8:23:04 AM
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“The explanation requiring the fewest assumptions is most likely to be correct.”

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Fundamentally very little was added with Utopia. Changing fan survey or finding a way to identify tankers, is more complex.


Agreed. Expanding existing processes to include one more nation, plus the second team processes are all pretty much straightforward technical changes. They still require planning and foresight and are still of course prone to have errors in development, but it's simply a technical issue. When it comes to something like rebalancing the fan survey, the technical portion of it is relatively simple - change parameters here, maybe another calculation there - but coming up with the actual design behind it, trying to find the right balance that targets people who are intentionally tanking and not those who simply are teams behind the talent curve because of team age or new promotions is a significant challenge. Finding some way to quantify "I know it when I see it" is pretty much the lot in life for technical folks. ;)

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