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From: malice

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A query: everyone votes?

No, it would be a poll set up that only the affected micro-nation managers could vote in. That doesn't mean the results of it would determine the outcome of what's to be done. An overwhelming majority one way or the other would strongly influence that decision, though.

We're not dismissing the concerns of the managers from larger BB countries, but at the same time, the effects of a potential merge isn't going to impact them in the same way. Nonetheless, everyone's thoughts on the matter are still welcomed and encouraged.

Cheers. I'm fine with that.

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From: malice

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Not sure if serious or trolling. Anyway well written brilliant post, all the discussion would be much easier if everybody realise this.

Except... it's being painted (by some, not Trainerman) as if this is the norm for ALL micro users. And the focus currently being placed on this is missing the point entirely.
All discussion hence would be much easier if everybody realised this.

Last edited by malice at 5/3/2016 7:52:47 AM

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Definitley serious.

One pint that Malice kinda makes/is making is that for competing in our league the financial challenge is very real for new teams...in some ways with minimum salary it could actually be harder for a new team. They will ahve to pay a DI floor before they could build arena unless someone tells them very soon/quick to get it done and they ahve to build a DI/B3 level roster quickly to even have hope of competing, otherwise its crush bots and be crushed by eveyrone else...so its real crummy in this sense.

Spot on! Sheesh dude... you're on a roll! It only ends up being any sort of advantage (at all!) if you're capable, and survive the initial onslaught. How many times have we had someone join the JBBL mid-season, and quit before the end, for the very reasons you list? Crazy...

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From: Knecht

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There are people who depend on this game to pay the bills and if they're not comfortable taking a risk of that nature, it's completely understandable.


Seems they had an easy life so far - if they don't make ambitious changes they better start looking for some other sources of income, as the soil their profit is coming from, is eroding very fast...

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
From: jonte

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There are people who depend on this game to pay the bills and if they're not comfortable taking a risk of that nature, it's completely understandable.


Seems they had an easy life so far - if they don't make ambitious changes they better start looking for some other sources of income, as the soil their profit is coming from, is eroding very fast...


I manage a very small online game. It is a lot of work and it does not generate enough money to pay the bills for the server alone..don't start with the time i spent to develop everything.

It is not the same as BB, but still, you should respect the work the developers put into this game at least a little...

From: Knecht

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I am sorry, but as the narrative goes, this was a students project and although it did not turn out to become facebook, it was very succesful for a very long time - I hope it will become great again, but the effort put into keeping the game a top product, was simply not there.

You guys - and I have been preaching this for years - better stop seeing this game as something we need to be thankful for. It's a product that the owners want to sell and make money with - there is no such thing as respect necessary, as respect does not pay bills or salaries.

If some kind of dying company - lets say some newspaper goes bankrupt - I don't see the urge to feel or express some respect. It's just a manifesto of bad business decisions, same applies for this game. If this game ceases to exist people will find other ways to spend their time and money.

Maybe my point of view will be seen as cynic or whatever, but it's the plain truth.

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
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Here I think the smart business thing-
#1 not mess with macros that are not having issue with their size or structure
#2 Eliminate the micros that are a problem and don't work
#3 Try to retain customers impacted by this-micros as much as possible but
#4 Focus on the parts of the model that work and are cost effective.

If you think of it as a business, then eliminating a small, yet basically free-to-run micro is simply not good business practice. I can't imagine micros cost more to run than the small amount of money they bring in.

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