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From: Kukoc

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140518.7 in reply to 140518.6
Date: 4/14/2010 9:48:44 AM
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??? Did you even understand the suggestion? We are talking about 1% tax when player does not sell.
200k = 2000 tax. 2mil = 20000 tax.

From: aigidios

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140518.8 in reply to 140518.7
Date: 4/14/2010 10:21:55 AM
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Oh sorry, I didnt read that so well.

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140518.9 in reply to 140518.4
Date: 4/14/2010 12:32:12 PM
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I know market value is not what I think it is worth, but what I was saying was that I am sure that an 18 year old with superstar potential and great stats is NEVER worth 20k. And I was selling him a week after the draft (I think), and sold him less than a week later for 10 times the amount. Maybe it was purely market value changing dramastically, or maybe it was just that there weren't many people online at the time and so it was selling for less, or some other reason. All I'm saying is that putting up a player at 1k isn't always going to sell at the price that player is worth, for example a player sold during off peak is probably going to sell for less than the same player listed during peak hours on the same day.

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140518.10 in reply to 140518.5
Date: 4/14/2010 12:45:07 PM
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I just did a search for players over 10 million listed on the transfer market and there were about 15 players. Now I don't know why they are listed for that price, but I'm sure they have their reasons. If they are legitimate reasons, then this tax would stop them doing this. (Again I don't know why they do it so I can't give the reason).

I agree that people should take care when listing their price. However, new players might not know the right price to list a player, so might list very high prices initially and be taxed a lot of money and will probably plead ignorance about the tax.

I can't remember the rookies height but his skills were fairly good. There might have been better players than him on the transfer list, but all I'm saying is that I think he is worth a lot more than 20k, and there was no way I was going to let him get sold for 20k.
You say buying your own player back is even worse than paying tax for noone buying him, but that wasn't an option for me. I listed the rookie at 1k, at the deadline he was at a price that I considered far below his true value, and so I was happy to lose a thousand or 2 to buy the player back. Paying tax is only relevant if there is no bid on him.

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140518.11 in reply to 140518.10
Date: 4/14/2010 2:34:21 PM
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Perhaps new users could use the transfer price estimate or have new users free of tax for four weeks (just the same amount of time they get the extra income).
I'm not judging your player sale. I just said you would have payed that 2k (for listing 200k and not selling) instead % of tax you payed after buying him back.

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140518.12 in reply to 140518.11
Date: 4/14/2010 3:48:19 PM
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ah okay.

Yeah I like the 4 weeks tax free idea.

From: rwystyrk

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140518.13 in reply to 140518.11
Date: 4/14/2010 4:21:46 PM
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There is already tax for listing players:
I am familiar with the star players, and am not afraid that they will be transferred
which influence your Fan survey.
I don't think any other tax is needed.

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140518.14 in reply to 140518.13
Date: 4/14/2010 4:29:06 PM
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That survey is just stupid. I get half a star in that section every week and yet sell out my arena every week. It doesn't seem very accurate or useful to me.

From: Kukoc

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140518.15 in reply to 140518.13
Date: 4/14/2010 4:34:48 PM
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You know this survey really has a small effect. As you are a constant lister, I understand why you oppose this suggestion.

From: rwystyrk

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140518.16 in reply to 140518.15
Date: 4/14/2010 5:09:05 PM
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I don't think I'm constant lister, I used to list some players quite often, but except of my last draftee (which is not sold for many times at the bottom end of TPE - why should I pay any tax for this listing?) I haven't listed player for about a month (before last Sunday).
Your suggestion would totally change behaviour of all managers for tranfers. They would look for buyer f.e. on federation forum and would place him on tranfer list after they find any bid with acceptable price.
I can accomodate to any conditions but I can't really see advantages of this one.
What is wrong on too many players on TL? You can use filter and now also you can save the search if you don't want to see players above some level of price.


From: rwystyrk

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140518.17 in reply to 140518.15
Date: 4/14/2010 5:12:05 PM
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You know this survey really has a small effect. As you are a constant lister, I understand why you oppose this suggestion.


So maybe you can suggest enlarge of this effect instead of suggestion of this thread if you feel this effect as small.

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